[Chummy]

Now, no, you're wrong. I've not based my comments on "the only reason people engage in lovemaking," but rather and emphatically my comments are based on simple science, simple biology, x and y, and all that.

You speak quite broadly, I hope you do realize, when writing, "Homosexuals want to commit their lives to one another and raise children."

Raise children? Not their own. Produce children?

They can't. For one, your comment hardly applies generally to homosexuals en masse. For another, their desire is in stark contrast to their ability, and in fact requires the involvement and contributions of others, ie, those who engage in an act of procreation and which act produces an offspring.

You still offer not a whit of a reason as to why a society should recognize this arrangement.

When Little Johnny asks, 'Mommy, where did I come from'?, all that Mommy may respond is, "Well, it wasn't from me and your other Mommy."

[Violette]

"Raise children? Not their own. Produce children?

They can't. For one, your comment hardly applies generally to homosexuals en masse. For another, their desire is in stark contrast to their ability, and in fact requires the involvement and contributions of others, ie, those who engage in an act of procreation and which act produces an offspring"

Their act of lovemaking cannot produce children. Just as with an infertal couple. Again, a homosexual couple (one of the members of the couple) will find a surrogate mother. If they are two women, one will find a sperm donor and have invetro fertalization. These are the same choices a single person has if they want to have baby.

"You still offer not a whit of a reason as to why a society should recognize this arrangement"

For the same reason we recognize the arrangement of a man marrying a woman who has had a histerectomy.