Neither did unions between blacks and whites but we stopped making that illegal. I see no value in continuing to keep this illegal. Children are a separate issue. I think they are better off in straight married households but why should you deny gays the right to marry based on that?
That was a case of the state denying legal privileges to individuals on the basis of their race. Equal protection arguments are absolutely correct for instances of racial discrimination.
Just because it is possible to make an analogy doesn't mean the analogy has value. Going back once again to post # 66:
Men and women are not equal. They have biological and traditional differences. Couples of different makeups are even more not equal. -NutCrackerBoy
Neither did unions between blacks and whites but we stopped making that illegal. I see no value in continuing to keep this illegal. Children are a separate issue. I think they are better off in straight married households but why should you deny gays the right to marry based on that?
I realize that the most common "pro" argument in any "gay rights" discussion is to equate what homosexuals encounter to the inhuman treatment to which blacks have been subjected by Western cultures. I always take personal offense when gays and their defenders do this, but what you have just stated has particularly offended me because you pass this untrue statement off as if it's veracity is unquestionable. In fact, unions between blacks and whites have occurred for thousands of years, the Egyptians, Cushites, Nubians, Ethiopians and other black African peoples have intermarried with Israelites, Greeks, Romans, etc. It has only been in recent history, the past 500 years or so, that blacks have been the primary group of people enslaved.
Before you make blanket statements disparaging one group in support of another, you should make sure your facts are straight. Then tell me what has happen to every single society that has ever even condoned homosexual behavior. Is that what you want for our nation?
You keep comparing mixed race marriages to same sex marriages. Doesn't hold water, mixed race marriages were illegal for a relatively short period of time in some - not all - geographic locations. Marriage has meant man+woman since time immemorial, all over the globe without exception. The only variation is that some cultures have permitted polygamy, which is still man+women.
Second, your acceptance of same-sex marriage is based on the false premise that "gay" is an unchangeable identity such as "Black" or "Chinese" or "Caucasian". All those categories are morally neutral and also unchangeable. Being "gay" is based SOLEY on voluntary behavior. The many "ex-gays" are testimony to this.
Once special recognition, rights and so on are granted to a changing group indentified solely by their chosen methods of sexual gratification, where does it stop?