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To: KantianBurke
Yeah I can see how this is an important issue compared to National Security. . . No really. . . I can. . .

Anyways. . . I never really could figure out what wrong with homosexual relationships and why so called conservatives want the the goverment to legislate laws against it?!

I thought that one of the basis of conservatism was to remove big goverment from our private lives?!
29 posted on 12/01/2003 5:21:58 PM PST by Tempest
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To: Tempest
shhhhh you'll interupt the homobashfest. That's much more important that limited government. /sarcasm
39 posted on 12/01/2003 5:32:53 PM PST by honeygrl (FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
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To: Tempest
IF we had a judiciary that respected state's rights then most folks could bank on silly things such as gay marriage never coming to pass in their own states. However as we had a Judicial system made up of philosopher kings who can and do disregard the Constitution at will, the only measure that will prevent gay marriage and G-d knows what else from being instituted across the land is a Federal Amendment. Hence why Bush should get involved.
40 posted on 12/01/2003 5:33:53 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Tempest
"Anyways. . . I never really could figure out what wrong with homosexual relationships and why so called conservatives want the the goverment to legislate laws against it?! "

Right. Homos are just a Tempest in a tea pot. Right?

50 posted on 12/01/2003 5:44:12 PM PST by truthandjustice1
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To: Tempest
Anyways. . . I never really could figure out what wrong with homosexual relationships...

Homosexual behavior results in severe health hazards that can affect all of us.

Homosexuals, being around 2% (including bisexuals) of the population, account for a third of child molestations. Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

There is absolutely no evidence homosexuality is genetic.

Homosexuals can change their behavior. That's just one of many links. You can find more of the same here and here.

Homosexuals must be accepted as the human beings that they are. It's their behavior that we must not accept.

64 posted on 12/01/2003 6:06:02 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Tempest
I thought that one of the basis of conservatism was to remove big goverment from our private lives?!

You are mistaken. The purpose of government is to promote the common good, or "the general welfare" as stated in the preamble to the Constitution. Society depends for its existence on the existence and welfare of the family, so the state has an interest in the welfare of the family.

125 posted on 12/02/2003 5:13:42 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Tempest
Anyways. . . I never really could figure out what wrong with homosexual relationships and why so called conservatives want the the goverment to legislate laws against it?!

The conservatives did not want to create new laws, just keep existing ones. Laws against buggery have been around for as long as the republic has.

I thought that one of the basis of conservatism was to remove big goverment from our private lives?!

No, because people will choose to do evil in private. The government does exist to restrain evil. Anyway, gay marriage isn't about private lives, it's about a public institution.

Meantime, the liberals are creating bigger government by asking them to prosecute "hate crimes". We had illegal homosexuality for over 200 years without creating a bedroom police. But homosexuality wasn't legal for more than 20 years before we got thought police.

Just who is trying to get government to intrude where, hmmmm?

Shalom.

130 posted on 12/02/2003 5:48:31 AM PST by ArGee (Scientific reasoning makes it easier to support gross immorality.)
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To: Tempest
"I thought that one of the basis of conservatism was to remove big goverment from our private lives?!"

Yes, but the problem is that government is ALREADY in our lives with respect to marriage. Taxes, insurance coverage, the courts and their treatment of divorce, etc. The only reason homosexuals want marriage recognized is so that they can reap some of the benefits of having a marriage that is recognized by the law. Get rid of the various legal benefits and penalties associated with marriage, then MAYBE I could understand the case for recognizing gay marriage. But you see, once you do that, the only authority on marriage is the church, most varieties of which DON'T recognize homosexual "unions" as marriage.

On the other hand, one could make the case that government has reason to support only heterosexual marriage, for the simple reason that only a man and a woman can produce children. And since the country needs children (a.k.a. future producers and tax payers), the government has an incentive to ENCOURAGE heterosexual marriage and the children that it produces. Homosexual couples cannot produce children (not yet, anyway), and therefore cannot contribute to the "greater good" by producing offspring, and hopefully raising them to be decent people and good citizens.

168 posted on 12/03/2003 5:30:29 PM PST by Sicon
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