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To: ArGee
Isn't marriage for most folks a union between a man and woman in the eyes of GOD?

"It may have been that when Adam and Eve walked the earth, but throughout most of history it has been a civil contract between the state and the couple."

For most of history for most folks, it's been exactly what I said. There was no state to contract WITH. I'm not denying that it is also a civil contract NOW, but I still don't believe it's between the state and the couple--it's between the bride and groom. The state has no part in the marriage, and no reason to be part of the marriage, except for the state's grants of oh-so-wonderful 'benefits,' then and now.

145 posted on 12/02/2003 4:31:20 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When laws are regularly flouted, respect of the law and law enforcement diminishes correspondingly.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
For most of history for most folks, it's been exactly what I said.

Says you. I think every government has recognized that contracting for stable families is required to maintain the state. Without a stable family structure the state will eventually self-destruct.

The family is the cornerstone of the nation.

Shalom.

146 posted on 12/02/2003 4:34:40 PM PST by ArGee (Scientific reasoning makes it easier to support gross immorality.)
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