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Something is wrong here. But it is usually best to wait a few days. First reports of things are almost always wrong. I am sure some of the facts that we are basing our speculation on are wrong as so often happens in war.

Yep, something is wrong here. It's your assumption that there aren't a bunch of dead Iraqis because the Iraqis say there aren't any. Do you expect the people in this openly pro-Saddam town to admit to a huge defeat??? Don't you think it's a teensy tiny bit suspicious that the hospital's doctor reported that "mainly civilians" were killed? Who was firing the AK-47s and RPGs? They all got away?

I guess you simply toss aside the quotes from our own soldiers that the enemy "had the training to stand and fight". Our guys engaged them at close range, close enough to see hits. Are our soldiers in on this con job?

Mike--we are of similar opinion. This is a pro Saddam town. There could be a concerted effort by the townspeople either under threat or because of allegiance to Saddam to have hauled the bodies away, whisked the drag trails, buried the "martyrs" in the middle of the night out of town and out of sight, all in the hopes of making a victory for the Americans into a propaganda victory for themselves.

No way do I think our side is making anything up here. There is no need to. However, I see a big need by the jihadis to recover from a blazing defeat and to save face.

Where are the bodies or the bodie parts? To carry off 46 to 54 dead and times three multiple wounded would require a rather huge force that our military is not claiming right now. Our military lied in the Civil War, in the war of 1898, in WWI, WWII, and Korea, and I see no reason why to believe them here. Do you love the Gubmint? They tell you the truth right?