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¿Habla Español? Your kids may soon
Skagit Valley Herald ^ | 12/01/03 | STEVE HOWIE

Posted on 12/01/2003 4:51:49 PM PST by gubamyster

BBy STEVE HOWIE

MOUNT VERNON — The school district is studying the possibility of converting one or more of its six elementary schools into dual language programs where the day is divided between lessons in Spanish and English for all students.

"Research says that's the best delivery model," Superintendent Mack Armstrong said. "Then the question is, Why wouldn't we do it?"

Armstrong's enthusiasm for the idea follows a visit to the district two weeks ago by Richard Gomez, bilingual education director for the state education department in Olympia.

In the last three years, Gomez has spearheaded efforts to create 17 dual language schools in the state, primarily in eastern Washington. In his previous job in Texas, he helped establish 50 of the schools.

"I think it would be an excellent fit for Mount Vernon," Gomez said. "It offers a superior academic program and a superior linguistic program."

A dual language program, also known as two-way immersion, is different from traditional schools that teach students who speak languages other than English. In a dual language school, fourth-graders might learn math in Spanish and social

studies in English — regardless of the language spoken at home.

The model promoted by Gomez transforms a school grade by grade until the entire curriculum is taught in both Spanish and English and students are equally adept at both languages.

The Burlington School District is considering starting such a program next school year at West View Elementary School. According to the 2000 census, one out of every four residents in Mount Vernon and Burlington is Hispanic.

The transformation to a dual language program begins gradually. A school starts by converting its kindergarten and possibly first grade to the Spanish-English format, continuing with the second grade the following year, and third grade the year after that, until the entire school is bilingual.

Within each grade, students have some subjects in Spanish and others in English. Each classroom is divided equally between Spanish and English speakers and, within each class, students are encouraged to serve as translators for their peers.

Supporters point to a growing amount of research that shows dual language programs lead to higher test scores for both English- and Spanish-speaking students.

While parents tend to be hesitant about risking their children's education on such a radical change, many change their tune once they see the results, Gomez said.

One of the best endorsements for bilingual schools is that most of the existing schools now have waiting lists of parents who want their children involved, he said.

A nationwide study six years ago by two Virginia researchers found that the dual language program was the most effective way for non-English speakers to become fluent.

Ideally, English-speaking students gain a second language as well, and both groups improve scores on the Washington Assessment of Student Learning, or WASL.

"Students who have been in this program from kindergarten to the time that they take the WASL have surpassed the other kids in regular school," said Arturo Vivanco, migrant/bilingual coordinator for Mount Vernon schools. "It starts as a language program and it turns into an academic program and that's what our parents want."

Addressing the needs of a growing Hispanic population is becoming a critical issue for many Mount Vernon elementary schools.

Many schools with large Hispanic and migrant populations suffer from low WASL scores largely because student performance is assessed on a test given in English, when a large portion of their students speak primarily Spanish.

Even if students learn English, they often have trouble translating the content in subjects such as science and social studies, both in their day-to-day classes and on the annual state exam.

Armstrong said the dual language model effectively would eliminate the language barrier and increase learning for Spanish- and English-speaking students.

"Both students are getting a foreign language. Both students are getting primary content in their primary language," Armstrong said. "So, there's a benefit for all students involved."

Principals who heard Gomez's presentation stressed that the discussion is in its early stages. But several school leaders also said they were interested in studying how the model would work at their schools.

"With our demographics at Centennial, we're a perfect candidate for doing a program like that," said Alan McDonald, who is in his third year as principal of Centennial Elementary School, where 54 percent of the students are Hispanic. "It's just that it would be difficult for us to have the staff to implement it."

Gomez said hiring enough bilingual teachers is typically the biggest concern and the most difficult obstacle for schools making the leap to a dual language program.

Centennial has four classes in each grade. That means the school would have to hire two Spanish-speaking teachers a year until the program is fully implemented.

Centennial currently has three teachers capable of teaching in Spanish, but finding qualified staff year after year is a difficult challenge, McDonald said.

"Not only do you want them to be bilingual, you want them to be your best candidates," he said. "That's the tough part."

Of all Mount Vernon elementary schools, Madison has the largest percentage of Hispanic students at 68 percent. Two-thirds of Madison's Hispanic students are migrants.

Like many schools that have a large number of English-language learners, Madison uses a "pullout program." Teachers pull non-English speaking students out of their regular classroom for part of the day to work on English language development.

About 10 years ago, the school attempted to implement a program similar to the dual language approach where English- and Spanish-speaking students were taught in both languages, but school officials had difficulty finding enough bilingual teachers, Principal Evelyn Morse said.

Morse said she is interested in trying the switch again. But she wants to watch Burlington's West View Elementary School before taking the leap.

"We're not just looking at it because we have a high migrant bilingual population," Morse said. "We're looking at it because it's a good program."

West View Elementary may be the first in Skagit County to switch to a full bilingual school. Burlington administrators are in the final stages of studying dual language programs and plan to make a presentation to the School Board later this month. About half of West View students are Hispanic.

West View Principal Doug Banner, several West View teachers, two board members and Superintendent Rick Jones are in South Texas this week, visiting a number of dual language schools.

While Burlington is going through its School Board, Mount Vernon's Armstrong said board approval would not be required to start a bilingual program in his district.

"It is unique enough that having board understanding on it is healthy," Armstrong said. "But we don't need a vote."

Armstrong has experience implementing a bilingual program at his previous job in Shelton, about 25 miles northwest of Olympia.

Evergreen Grade School in Shelton has one of the longest running dual language programs in the state.

Three years ago, the school expanded its English-Spanish format from one classroom per grade to a schoolwide program.

While parents in the small logging town were suspicious of the program at first, not a single student has transferred from the school since the conversion, Principal Steve Warner said.

"It's a big leap. I can understand a little hesitancy," Warner said. "It's hard for us as adults to understand the capacity that kids have for learning languages."

Steve Howie can be reached at 360-416-2135 or by e-mail at showie@skagitvalleyherald.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aliens; bilingualeducation; education; immigrantlist; immigration; nonassimilation; peekapanish; quislings
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To: Dog Gone
In the short term, it might help Americans to learn spanish, as the Mexicans are overrunning our borders. In the long run, the entire world had better learn english, but that is the language which will ultimately prevail.

Our competitors in Europe have caught on to the need to know english and they learn it as a second language at an early age. It would do us all good in the U.S. to learn a second language. The earlier taught, the easier. Unfortunately my choice in college was French. Zeut Alors. Habría sido mejor haber aprendido español.

61 posted on 12/01/2003 6:13:35 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: sarcasm; Dog Gone
Saying "defeatist" doesn't end the debate. It merely shows that you are unable or unwilling to engage in that debate.

Now, assuming you actually manage to build a 2,100-mile Berlin wall--which, in itself, would be a rather impressive engineering feat--the illegal immigrants and those who profit from bringing in illegal aliens will look for alternative means of getting the illegals into the country.

One rather obvious method would be to bring in illegal aliens by boat.

How do you propose to counter this effort? Note that the key selling point of that 2,100-mile-long Berlin Wall is that it will largely stop illegal immigration. When it does not do this, you will have a credibility problem, and that will make additional measures less likely to be approved.
62 posted on 12/01/2003 6:18:28 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: DeFault User
I would not recommend learning Spanish in a dual-language program ---- if someone is interested in learning that language it would be better to do it the right way --- take the courses that teach spelling and grammar and then study in a foreign university a semester or two and learn by the immersion method. All you hear around here is the slang --- terms like "la troca" or sentences mixed with Spanish and English like "da me la pencil". It's okay for the border maybe but it's not Spanish that would get you very far.
63 posted on 12/01/2003 6:19:21 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Eala
It would be fairer if they chose Scottish Gaelic (aka Ga\idhlig); so few native speakers left, nobody would have an unfair advantage, tha mi a' smaoineachadh.

And some awfully pretty music for icing on the cake, too. One of the tricks I learned a long time ago when trying to pick up a new language was to listen to all the music in that language I could. It helps the pronunciation, gives you a few quick memorable phrases, and sometimes a few idiomatic terms as well.

tha mi a' smaoineachadh Klingons? The Klingons are attacking?!?! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!

64 posted on 12/01/2003 6:21:39 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: gubamyster
Wouldn't America be a great place if it just weren't for all the Sp*cs, Ni%%ers, and Ra&#eads. /sarcasm

Military Academies are now requiring 3 years of high school Foreign language. Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Japanese or Chinese.

The world has changed since the 50's. Deal with it.

65 posted on 12/01/2003 6:21:54 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Daddy, how many US soldiers have to die in defense of Freedom? Daughter, if necessary, all but 9.)
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To: DeFault User
A guy from here who is hispanic and was stationed in the military in Panama told us of a very funny story ---- they were doing an exam on a prim and proper Panamanian woman and needed a translator --- they chose a Chicana woman who claimed she spoke Spanish but she only knew the most vulgar street terms for anatomical parts and of course used them to describe a procedure and ask questions of her.
66 posted on 12/01/2003 6:23:24 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sarcasm
What is your problem? I mentioned the coastline first, then the Canadian border, and finally Alaska. I guess I could have mentioned Hawaii, too, but my point was long lost over your head.

Arguing with you is pointless when you can't even grasp the little points.

67 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Poohbah
the illegal immigrants and those who profit from bringing in illegal aliens will look for alternative means of getting the illegals into the country.

Interior enforcement with mandatory prison sentences for employers of illegal aliens would cut down on the demand.

68 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:58 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Ben Chad
It would do us all good in the U.S. to learn a second language.

It's okay to learn whatever foreign language you choose to learn --- but really the USA is far ahead of Europe and any of those multi-language countries. We got far ahead of the rest of the world by being a unified people with a common language ---- not by being Balkanized like we are now aiming to do.

69 posted on 12/01/2003 6:29:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sarcasm; Dog Gone
Interior enforcement with mandatory prison sentences for employers of illegal aliens would cut down on the demand.

That will last right up to the moment that Mrs. Soccer Mom gets sentenced to 5-10 for hiring day labor.

70 posted on 12/01/2003 6:30:06 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: gubamyster
Indoctrination?
71 posted on 12/01/2003 6:30:09 PM PST by DeathAngel
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To: Dog Gone
It would actually be easier to stop from coming by water. There has to be some point where this invasion stops - you seem to want to rollover and let the country be overrun by illegal aliens.
72 posted on 12/01/2003 6:30:42 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm; Dog Gone
It would actually be easier to stop from coming by water.

Actually, it wouldn't.

They don't have to show up at a shipping pier. You have to secure almost every mile of coastline.

73 posted on 12/01/2003 6:32:43 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
As I said before - you're a defeatist.
74 posted on 12/01/2003 6:32:58 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Dog Gone
Don't be a smartass. You can close off one entry point entirely, and guess where the next entry point will be. If you guessed "the next easiest point of entry", you win.

Good thing I'm bilingual! Hope they are too....


75 posted on 12/01/2003 6:33:13 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: FITZ
That sort of street Spanish is to Spanish as Ebonics is to English.

My wife is currently teaching Spanish to some doctors and nurses. Even with their minimal knowledge so far (this semester), they tell her they get a lot of gratitude from their hispanic patients. It could also avoid mistakes in directions regarding diagnoses, medications, etc.
76 posted on 12/01/2003 6:38:11 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: sarcasm
Ending all welfare programs for non-citizens, deporting those who won't pay their own hospital bills or school tuition, and cleaning out the Social Security number database and going after those committing felony document fraud would go a long way to making at least a big dent in the problem. The borders are being flooded by indigent people from the third world country ---- the economies in the border states are a disaster.

I think we should categorize immigrants --- the freeloaders need to go ---- there doesn't have to be a Berlin Wall, there doesn't have to be door-to-door searches ---- a lot more could be done with existing monies.
77 posted on 12/01/2003 6:38:34 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sarcasm
you seem to want to rollover and let the country be overrun by illegal aliens

Not at all. I just don't think any physical barrier would do more than slow it down.

I favor a system of laws that discourages the entry of illegals by denying them jobs or government benefits, unless they have permission to enter to get them. That would cost hundreds of billions less than creating a Berlin Wall around the thousands of miles of our borders.

78 posted on 12/01/2003 6:39:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: sarcasm
As I said before - you're a defeatist.

"Defeatist" is a favorite term of the reality-allergic.

As long as anti-illegal-immigration measures don't personally inconvenience the population at large, they are popular. Once they begin to hit ordinary folks, they will quickly grow unpopular. When they're expensive and unpopular, they have a shelf life of hours at best.

You'd have to jail a sizable percentage of the border state population to make a large dent. And you'd also inevitably hit a lot of American citizens who work off the books for cash. Yup. Great way to win friends and influence people.

79 posted on 12/01/2003 6:39:59 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: DeFault User
But still you wonder why people living in this country refuse so adamantly to learn the language of this country. Most Americans will learn more Spanish for a 2-week vacation in Mexico than Mexicans will learn of English in 10 years of living in the USA.

I would not go to a Mexican doctor in Mexico and expect them to speak English --- I would think it was up to me to learn their language.
80 posted on 12/01/2003 6:40:52 PM PST by FITZ
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