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Should local police be burdened with enforcing federal immigration laws?
1 posted on 11/29/2003 8:38:31 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds
"Should local police be burdened with enforcing federal immigration laws?"

It's a fair question. But SOMEONE needs to enforce those laws, and someone needs to get the funding, authority and support to do so.

Our country (if we still can call it that) gets as many as 2,000,000 immigrants a year, half of them illegal. Most come from Mexico, and most of those migrants have no interest or incentive in assimilating to the majority culture. The illegals represent 20 to 25 percent of the California and federal prison populations; they're crushing the hospitals in the Southwest with the cost of their medical care; and all of their kids born here (while the majority aborts and contracepts itself into extinction) receive automatic citizenship. In the meantime, both political parties wink at the invasion, which is supported by every powerful interest group and opposed only by the mass of average Americans -- who are, as usual, disenfranchised.

The Census Bureau tells us that whites will be a minority in this country by mid-century. When that happens, will the new majority, fed for decades on a sense of grievance, entitlement and racial solidarity, show the same solicitude for white rights that our government has shown for them? History tells us that most multi-racial and multi-cultural societies are unstable and violent, or tyrannical and violent. Our glib, arrogant sense of exceptionalism, fed by nonsense like the idea that we are a "proposition" nation, convinces us that we are immune to these realities. (By the way: ask the illegals in our prisons, and the immigrants living in huge communities where English is never spoken and politicians speak of America as the thief of Mexican land, whether they subscribe to the American "proposition." In fact, ask a random sample of immigrants, or even native-born Americans, what the American "proposition" is. Then ask yourself if all the comfy talk about propositions and creeds will save us from the consequences of growing racial and cultural division.)

2 posted on 11/29/2003 9:00:40 AM PST by resistmuch
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To: Scenic Sounds
"I believe the biggest argument from most big-city chiefs (against immigration enforcement) is simply the lack of resources,"

They've created this problem themselves by "winking" at it so long they are now swamped in illegals. The responsibility for enforcing laws of the land has always existed at the local level. Where the hell did they ever get the idea they had the option to "selectively" enforce laws of the land?? There should be retroactive prosecution of all law enforcement officials and politicians responsible for creating this problem including ex-presidents who have proclaimed group amnesties.

3 posted on 11/29/2003 9:28:57 AM PST by kimosabe31
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5 posted on 11/29/2003 9:43:23 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Scenic Sounds
When that happens, will the new majority, fed for decades on a sense of grievance, entitlement and racial solidarity, show the same solicitude for white rights that our government has shown for them?

White Rights? You have lost your mind, there is no such thing as white rights. Whites can only be racists, remember?

History tells us that most multi-racial and multi-cultural societies are unstable and violent, or tyrannical and violent.

Unstable and violent will not begin to describe the first hour of the day.

N E V E R underestimate the raw raging fury of white men that have finally had enough.

TLI

6 posted on 11/29/2003 9:53:38 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Although it's illegal for immigrants to live in the United States without immigration papers, state and local law enforcement agencies have traditionally refused to arrest them for such violations.

I don't think they should either. If an illegal is picked up in DWI, or driving without insurance, shoplifting or any other crime, they should be deported and banned from ever returning legally. Visa violators should be on a wanted list but the INS should go after them.

8 posted on 11/29/2003 10:20:22 AM PST by FITZ
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10 posted on 11/29/2003 3:05:43 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Scenic Sounds
"Should local police be burdened with enforcing federal immigration laws?"

I'd say that should depend on whether or not they want any help from the FBI or Homeland Security when they manage to enforce state or municipal laws.

But then I'm something of an idealist.

11 posted on 11/30/2003 9:06:39 AM PST by norton
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But immigration activists say it is tantamount to "immigrant bashing."

Actually, "illegal alien bashing".

12 posted on 11/30/2003 4:16:30 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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"Making state and local police enforce federal immigration law strikes a direct blow at the efforts of police to win the trust and confidence of the communities they serve," said Frank Sharry of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrants' advocacy group.

Why should the police be concerned about winning the trust of the lawbreakers in their communities? The police are supposed to ARREST the lawbreakers in their communities.

13 posted on 11/30/2003 4:22:15 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Gee, since the cities and states can't afford to pay for illegal immigrants' health care, schooling, etc., shouldn't the cops help sweep 'em up?
14 posted on 11/30/2003 4:22:38 PM PST by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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