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To: Wait4Truth
Stop kidding yourself, Bush is for that, only in a slightly different form. It was his pop's after all that coined the phrase, New World Order.

Both parties are Free Traders, in investigating the general defintion of Free Trade it involves dissolving sovereign borders, incorporating under International Law ruled on by unelected comissions negotiating treaties for now, common law later, while under undue influence by the U.N., see ICC court, and lots and lots of socialism.

If you will pay a vist to the FTTA site and poke around you will find much of their discussion on how to help courts hand down harsh sentences for any individual that objects to open border trade as being xenophobic and racist.

Bush sees Europe dissolving into one socialist trading block, in fact the world over is dissolving into trading blocs, and he rightly worries that this bodes ill for America maintaining it's status as Super Power if these blocs gain equal economic footing. His answer for that is to create a trading bloc in the Western Hemisphere and with Eastern Bloc nations, basically forming one state/trading bloc out of many nations.

He does this out of patriotism and a heartfelt concern for the future of the nation. He has said he wants to see a Free Trade Zone from the North of Canada to the tip of Cape Horn. He has made mention of forming a new type of alliance of nations that will hopefully marginalize the United Nations and the E.U.. He is a true believer in globalism if it is handled his way. A way that he feels will preserve America over all and instead of handing our fate over to the U.N. and the E.U., chooses a way that will make us well armed economic competitors.

He has made huge, bold gambles,"Pre-emptive Doctrine", and his push towards democratizing the world into democratic republics. He's hung his whole fate on it's success, along with his place in recorded history, and our future. He has grabbed the inititive away from socialist Democrats that want to melt America into a, me too, socialist slave to Europe and the U.N.. He's cutting the strings to Europe and he should. Europe is heading towards a dictator that will make Hitler look like a choir boy.

People may think me awful for saying we need to use the Patriot Act to deport socialists. But I can promise you that if socialists win this thing we will find ourselves as individual citizens neck deep in the U.N. led ICC which is already branching past war crimes into hate crimes, hate speech,and hate thought. You ay think that tin foil hat material but give me a decade before you set that opinion in concrete.

He is for amnesty of illegals, attempted to pass 245i twice, is for letting Mexico dip into our Social Security fund to the tune of 34 billion in five years, and promotes lax borders. His new Medicare Bill sends 190 million to hospitals along the border to help offset the cost of providing illegals with medical treatment. He sees globalism taking hold the world over and fears the US being weakened and left behind by it and is not above attempting to buy friends in this hemisphere.

So he plays the game his way, a way that takes the lead in
guiding this hemisphere into a oneness of purpose. If a government won't go along he will take the carrot to the people of those governments eventually.

He doesn't care a fig for Europe or the U.N. and their opinion any more than I do, he does fear the success of the direction they are heading and sees the only answer as being to copy the same here with the handicap of the nations of the Western hemisphere still being third worldish, and behind economically and educationally compared to Europe. He figgures we have to play catchup and yank the Western Hemisphere into this century.

I think that is wrong headed on many levels. As a Christian I see globalism leading to the Valley of Decision eventually, with the entire world making one compromise after another until all are under the rule of a very bad character until it all falls apart on him leading to WW3. As a conservative I see all of this as a threat to the Constitution, our sovereignty, and our American spirit, which is the only thing standing between us and the wolf at the door.
1,428 posted on 11/29/2003 11:10:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Stop kidding yourself, Bush is for that, only in a slightly different form. It was his pop's after all that coined the phrase, New World Order.

That is not correct.

George H.W. Bush did say "new world order" in a speech. However, he did not coin that phrase.

Look at the back of a dollar bill. You will find there underneath the pyramid the words "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" which translates as "New World Order" or "A New Order Of The Ages" from Latin.

George H.W. Bush didn't put it there, either.


1,445 posted on 11/29/2003 11:27:59 PM PST by rdb3 (I don't believe in man-made "principles." I believe in Christ and what He calls right and wrong.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
September 11, 1990 : Bush speech on Gorbachev meeting, Iraq, and the economy Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the Persian Gulf Crisis and the Federal Budget Deficit (Some conspiracy theorists go wacko on this speech because of a mention of 'new world order'; the term's only real importance in this context is that it refers to ending conquest-and-annexation as an acceptable policy for nations, which would be something that an aspiring 'Babylonian Ruler' like Saddam Hussein would not appreciate.)

And as you can see by the date of Bush Sr.'s address, evidently Hussein's supporters did indeed get the point and took offense at that speech.

1,467 posted on 11/30/2003 12:15:08 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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