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Proof exists (that greenhouse does not), but believers would rather denounce than debate
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| Friday,November 28,2003
| By Lorne Gunter
Posted on 11/28/2003 7:00:24 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: edwin hubble
ah... an explanation for the 30yr warming trend... on Mars.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:04:11 AM PST
by
King Prout
(...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
To: SubMareener
I'd like to see those models tested.
In reverse.
I'd like to see if they can extrapolate from accurate current pollution and climate data using -deltaT and "predict" what the weather was KNOWN to be like 50, 100, 150, and 200 years ago.
If they cannot do that - and I suspect they in fact can NOT do that - then the models are full of used food.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:09:23 AM PST
by
King Prout
(...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
To: King Prout
re:#10 "ah... an explanation for the 30yr warming trend... on Mars."
Yes. Solar (sunspot) activity tracks very well with Earth's global surface temperatures. From Maunder Minimum forward.
And, yes, it would probably work much the same for Mars.
This research is about the effects of solar activity (not the effects of atmospheric composition) on Earth's global temperatures.
To: edwin hubble
well, I kinda figured that if at least THREE rocky-surfaced and atmosphere-cloaked bodies in the same solar system (Earth, Mars, and one of the moons of either Jupiter or Saturn - sheck the NASA/JPL website, the data is buried, but there nonetheless) all experienced a 2-3 degree F mean global temp rise in the same 30 year period... the Sun must be kicking out a tad more juice.
The enviroweenies don't like it when you bring up Martian Global Warming - it bums their vibe.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:31:53 AM PST
by
King Prout
(...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
To: Yasotay
correction for my post #11; That would be
Planck time, not
"plank" time, as i spelled it. I'm not suggesting they
be made to walk the plank, hehehe... For some glimmer of what Planck time, here's one link,
that still doesn't fully explain it, but then again
The tiniest time period imaginable? not even those who understand, and can use or apply quantum physics really know what the heck it is, anyway! According to related theory, this Planck business can be applied to what they call "virtual particles", which are "there", then not. Like a light randomly flashing on, but not off, just more like the bulb itself ceases to exist, at least at that one place, anyway... So I would like it if these global warming, it's gotta be all our fault crowd, would make like one of those particles.
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posted on
11/29/2003 11:30:00 AM PST
by
7MMmag
(i searched the world over and i thought i found true love, she met another and poof she was gone!)
To: ATOMIC_PUNK; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
11/30/2003 11:10:15 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:02:53 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: neb52
The Inter-Glacial is almost over!
Buy snow-shoes.
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posted on
12/01/2003 8:40:50 AM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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