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Scholars of Twang Track All the 'Y'Alls' in Texas
NY Times ^ | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 11/28/2003 6:06:42 AM PST by Pharmboy


Michael Stravato for The New York Times
John O. Greer is an architecture teacher at
Texas A&M University. But when a couple of
researchers sat down and talked with him recently,
they were less interested in what he said than
in how he said it.

COLLEGE STATION, Tex. — "Are yew jus' tryin' to git me to talk, is that the ah-deah?"

That was the idea. John O. Greer, an architecture teacher at Texas A&M University, sat at his dining table between two interrogators and their tape recorder. They had precisely 258 questions for him. But it waddn what he said that interested them most. It was how he said it.

Those responses, part of an ambitious National Geographic Society survey of Texas speech, with its "y'alls," "might-coulds" and "fixin' to's," are helping language investigators throw a scientific light on a mythologized and sometimes ridiculed mainstay of Americana: the Texas twang.

Among the unexpected findings, said Guy Bailey, a linguistics professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio and a leading scholar in the studies with his wife, Jan Tillery, is that in Texas more than elsewhere, how you talk says a lot about how you feel about your home state.

"Those who think Texas is a good place to live adopt the flat `I' — it's like the badge of Texas," said Dr. Bailey, 53, provost and executive vice president of the university and a transplanted Alabamian married to a Lubbock native, also 53.

So if you love Texas, they say, be fixin' to say "naht" for "night," "rahd" for "ride" and "raht" for "right."

And by all means say "all" for "oil."

In addition to quickly becoming enamored of Western garb like cowboy boots and hats, big-buckled belts, western shirts and vests, newcomers to the state — and there are a lot of them — are especially likely to adopt the lingo pronto.

At the same time, the speech of rural and urban Texans is diverging, Dr. Bailey said. Texans in Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth and San Antonio are sounding more like other Americans and less like their fellow Texans in Iraan, Red Lick or Old Glory.

Indeed, Dr. Tillery and Dr. Bailey wrote in a recent paper called "Texas English," a new dialect of Southern American English may be emerging on the West Texas plains. It is not what a linguist might expect, they wrote, "but this is Texas, and things are just different here."

The changes are being tracked by researchers for the two San Antonio linguists, who are working with scholars from Oklahoma State University and West Texas A&M in Canyon, outside Amarillo, under the sponsorship of the National Geographic Society. They divided Texas into 116 squares and are interviewing four native Texans spanning four age groups— from the 20's to the 80's, in each.

As part of the latest effort, two master's students in linguistics from the University of North Texas at Denton, Amanda Aguilar, 24, and Brooke Earheardt, 23, arranged recently to record Mr. Greer, 70, as he responded to an exhaustive 31-page questionnaire.

Ms. Aguilar first probed some of Mr. Greer's attitudes toward Texas. Was it a barren state?

"It's in the ahs of the beholder," responded Mr. Greer, who was born in Port Arthur. The state, he said, was "dee-vahded, you kin almost draw a lahn."

Was it a progressive state?

"Compared to who?" he said. "Califohnia? Baghdad? Ah'd have to say Texas is a progressive state."

Distinctive?

"Most are distinctive in their own way," he said, smiling, "with the possible exception of Ah-wah." (That was Iowa.)

Next Ms. Aguilar quizzed Mr. Greer on a lexicon of Texas words and phrases. Had he ever heard the expression "y'all?"

Of course. "Ah think `you' sometimes just duddn't work bah itself."

Could you use it for just one person?

"Ah would trah to confahn it to the plural," he said. "It's just like `youse guys.' "

Had he heard "fixin' to?"

Of course again. " `Ahma' often goes with it," he said. "Ahma fixin' to go."

The questions and Mr. Greer's answers kept coming. A dragonfly? That's a "miskeeta hahk." A wishbone was a "pulleybone." A cowboy's rope was a lasso or a lariat, or just a "ropin' rope." A drought was worse than a "drah spell"; no rain, or "it haddn for a long tahm." You wait "for" a friend who haddn shown up, but you wait "on" someone who is nearby and delayed, perhaps upstairs putting on makeup.

Afterward, Ms. Aguilar and Ms. Earheardt said that Mr. Greer, though white, employed some noticeable African-American and Deep South speech patterns. There were also Spanish influences, common in Texas, where Spanish was widely spoken for nearly a hundred years before English.

Dr. Tillery and Dr. Bailey warned that it was possible to exaggerate the distinctiveness of Texas English because the state loomed so large in the popular imagination. Few speech elements here do not also appear elsewhere.

"Nevertheless," they wrote in their paper on Texas English, "in its mix of elements both from various dialects of English and from other languages, TXE is in fact somewhat different from other closely related varieties."

Perhaps the most striking finding, Dr. Tillery said, was the spread of the humble "y'all," ubiquitous in Texas as throughout the South. Y'all, once "you all" but now commonly reduced to a single word, sometimes even spelled "yall," is taking the country by storm, the couple reported in an article written with Tom Wikle of Oklahoma State University and published in 2000 in the Journal of English Linguistics. No one other word, it turns out, can do the job.

"Y'all" and "fixin' to" were also spreading fast among newcomers within the state, they said, particularly those who regard Texas fondly. Use of the flat `I,' they found, also correlated strikingly to a favorable view of Texas.

But they found some curious anomalies, as well.

One traditional feature of Texas and Southern speech — pronouncing the word "pen" like "pin," known as the pen/pin merger — is disappearing in the big Texas cities, while remaining common in rural areas, Dr. Tillery said. Texans in the prairie may shell out "tin cints," but not their metropolitan brethren.

Urban Texas is abandoning the "y" sound after "n," "d" and "t," exchanging dipthongs for monophthongs. So folks in the cities read a "noospaper" — what their rural counterparts call a "nyewspaper." They'll hum a "tyewn" on the range, a "toon" in Houston. The upgliding dipthong, too, is an endangered species in the cities, where a country "dawg" is just a dog.

Why city Texans, more than country folk, should disdain to write with a "pin" is not clear, although it seems that some pronunciations carry a stigma of unsophistication while others do not.

It was such mixed patterns that suggested the emergence of a new dialect on the West Texas plains, Dr. Tillery said.

Other idiosyncrasies have all but vanished over time. Texans for the most part no longer pray to the "Lard," replacing the "o" with an "a," or "warsh" their clothes. How the interloping "r" crept in remains an especially intriguing question, Dr. Bailey said. Trying to trace the peculiarity, he asked Texans to name the capital of the United States, often drawing the unhelpful answer "Austin."

The opposite syndrome, known as r-lessness, which renders "four" as "foah" in Texas and elsewhere, is easier to trace, Dr. Bailey said. In the early days of the republic, plantation owners sent their children to England for schooling. "They came back without the `r,' " he said.

"The parents were saying, listen to this, this is something we have to have, so we'll all become r-less," he said. The craze went down the East Coast from Boston to Virginia (skipping Philadelphia, for some reason) and migrating selectively around the country.

Other common Texas locutions that replace an "s" with a "d" — "bidness" for "business," "waddn" for "wasn't" — are simply matters of mechanical efficiency, Dr. Bailey said. "With `n' and `d' the tongue stays in the same position," he said. "It's ease of articulation."

So even "fixin' to" becomes "fidden to" or "fith'n to." And fixin' to — where did that come from, anyway?

"Who knows?" Dr. Bailey said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: allyall; dialects; linguistics; melungeon; messnwithtexas; yall
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To: mtbopfuyn
Got past my deeper box, too.
81 posted on 11/28/2003 10:55:03 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: mtbopfuyn
http://www.geocities.com/melungeonheritage/faq.html

The "religion of peace" has to do with the origins of the name. Typical
82 posted on 11/28/2003 10:57:07 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: Allegra
I like all y'all; it means something like you and your kids are invited for dinner instead of just y'all.
83 posted on 11/28/2003 10:57:18 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer
"Their" was a slip of the finger; not into this, I guess.

Sorry.

84 posted on 11/28/2003 10:58:43 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Not really that bad, but good for "sticking-foot-in-mouth" disease !

NYDailyNews

Q: And what is Clark's reaction to former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean's pandering comment that that he, Dean, wants the votes of Southerners, i.e. "guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks"?

A: "Well, he shouldn't have said those things. I think all Americans - and this is a joke! - all Americans, even if they're from the South and 'stupid,' should be represented."
85 posted on 11/28/2003 11:01:10 AM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: Pharmboy; Brandybux
There was, some 10 or 20 years ago a Professor Tarply I think-at the then East Texas State Teacher's College-Commerce-who was expert in the details of these matters. He compiled great lists of defintitions & the manner of their pronunciation...

I could construct a map of perhaps six 'dialecticly' distinct regions within the state. A native, born & reared in a given region, preferrably over 60, would deliver very nice examples of unique dialect.

One of W's problems during the campaign was his pecular phrasing of any argument or idea ( GRAMMER, SYNTAX AND HIS ENTIRE THOUGHT PROCESS-though his manner of speaking is more art than science-more an affectation than a system of logic )-The Cowboy Way-a manner of inverse logic which led the uninformed to presume his brain was inserted backwards-they were entirely mistaken.

"The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy."
86 posted on 11/28/2003 11:03:20 AM PST by GatekeeperBookman ("The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy." Listen to Tancredo)
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To: DallasMike
Then there are phony Texans, like Ann Richards, who think that her exaggerated Texas accent plays well amongst the rural folk. In fact, her phoniness is one reason that she's out of a job.

And Molly Ivins. Molly works hard, if not well, at sounding Staked Plains Rural when she is in fact from Houston, went to Prep School and had virtually no accent when she left for college.

So9

87 posted on 11/28/2003 11:14:21 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Pharmboy
And North Carolina keeps the "r" (Scottish style) saying "cheer" for chair whereas north of them in Virginia and south of them in Georgia and South Carolina they say "chay-uh" instead dropping the "r" (English style). The North Carolina accent has some peculiarities possibly due to it being settled by Scotch-Irish (who pronounce "r" sounds) with the areas around it being more likely to have been settled by Englishmen (who usually drop "r" sounds). Tomatoes become "tuhmaters" or even shorted "maters" for real old rural folk. Potatoes become "puhtaters" or "taters" (everyone knows "Tater-Tots"). Unfortunately the word "Negro" mutated that way as well into the word which one cannot say.
90 posted on 11/28/2003 11:34:19 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: TonyRo76
LOL! Ah alwaays lahked listnin' to Senatuh Phil Gramm m'self. Now thare's a Texan for ya!

I was enjoyng all the various Texas accents I heard on recorded campaign phone calls from Republican candidates around the state last fall. Part of Rick Perry's said:

...we've still got a lawng wuay da go. Please git out and vote...."

92 posted on 11/28/2003 12:04:49 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Allegra
"enjoyng" - "enjoying"

No, it was not vernacular.

My typing just sucks.

93 posted on 11/28/2003 12:07:07 PM PST by Allegra
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To: TonyRo76
what else would we expect from NYC/East Coast elites?

Southerners are always the butt of jokes from the pseudo-intellectual Establishment. Stereotypes abound, from the trailer-park-dwelling tramp to the redneck in a beatup pickup with a gun rack and a six-pack of cheap suds jacklighting 'coons for sport.

Which goes miles toward explaining why Ebola is more popular in the South than Democrats.

94 posted on 11/28/2003 12:23:24 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Servant of the 9
"Staked plains rural." Wow--never heard that one before.
95 posted on 11/28/2003 12:39:31 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
Re #1 The ancestors of a lot of Texans came from North Carolina...via the Daniel Boone trail.
96 posted on 11/28/2003 12:40:28 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: B-Chan
The border between east Texas (where the Dixie dialect of Texan is spoken) and north Texas (where the Midwest dialect reigns) is at the junction of I-30E and the I-635 loop in Mesquite, Texas, immediately east of Dallas. Folks east of that point say "warsh" (wash) and "naw" (no), and call iced tea "ahhs tay".

So is that where the "official south" begins? I knew the "Grits Line" was somewhere just east of Dallas, but I didn't know where. I call it the "Grits Line" cuz that's where grits are standard side order in diners.

97 posted on 11/28/2003 12:56:05 PM PST by stands2reason ("Don't funk with my funk."--Bootsy Collins)
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To: Pharmboy
"Staked plains rural." Wow--never heard that one before.

The small towns around Lubbock.

Texas Tech Agriculture Majors.

Goat Ropers.

So9

98 posted on 11/28/2003 12:58:57 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: B-Chan
I say "you guys" prolly more than "y'all"---I was influenced by my non-Texan peers in Midland during the boom. I often speak in Ebonics, but that influence is from my father who used it as an affectation. In real life, he had the faintest East Tennessee accent.

Now my mother is South Lousinanan, and if I'm down theya foah moah thayun a week, I pick up the ax-sayunt.
99 posted on 11/28/2003 1:03:54 PM PST by stands2reason ("Don't funk with my funk."--Bootsy Collins)
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To: Servant of the 9
That is why Southerners and Texans almost always laugh at movie accents.

They are getting better though. It used to be so bad---I'd cringe when a "Texas Awl Man" came out talkin' like he just came off a Georgia plantation. ("Now look heah")

100 posted on 11/28/2003 1:11:15 PM PST by stands2reason ("Don't funk with my funk."--Bootsy Collins)
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