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To: okie01
Turkey's denial into the EU...is due to 3 key items. Their economy is either completely robust or completely dead...no one can be sure of anything. Their human rights record is zero, and they don't really care to fix it. And finally...Greece, who had a inside ticket to the EU...simply won't vote to allow them in.

As for the fears of Jihad...a strange change in German state-run tv news in the past two weeks. Suddenly they are examining the various Muslim protests and organizations...and actually asking questions. They had a reporter at a major rally in North Germany...who asked participants of the rally if Saddam killed thousands of his own people...which is now a virtual fact...and the participants just looked away...not wanting to answer. After about 5 of these questions...the rally organizers hopped in front of the reporter and denied them access to the protestors.

Alot of questions are coming up now about the money (which is partially drug tinted), the use of violence to bring teenage boys into the Muslim world, and the ultimate goals of these Muslim organizations. I think the right-wing elements of Germany also have an impact on the future...they are coming back...and need a whipping boy (no Jews left...so the Muslims will likely be next).
23 posted on 11/26/2003 10:36:12 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
>> Turkey's denial into the EU...is due to 3 2 key items. 1- The Europeans have a lot of racist in them. 2- Greece has territorial designs on Turkish soil. I really do not want to join the EU. Even though there are many reasons in favor. As far as Jihad, how many terrorists did they give asylum to this year? They deserve a dead reckoning.
24 posted on 11/26/2003 11:38:56 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: pepsionice
...a strange change in German state-run tv news in the past two weeks. Suddenly they are examining the various Muslim protests and organizations...and actually asking questions.

I noticed a subtle but marked change in the UK papers during Bush's state visit a few weeks ago. I was just scanning the articles coming out of the UK, not really caring what they had to say because I thought it would all be so predictable, but I noticed that even the leftist papers (Guardian et.al.) had toned down their rhetoric and even had faint praise for our president. My thought is that it may have something to do with the bombing in Turkey, i.e. the Euros realize that the Islamofascists aren't just going after Fortress America, they're going after any easy target that's even faintly scented with Westernism. In a nutshell, I get the impression that the oh-so-worldly Europeans are just now realizing that they screwed up, and screwed up badly, and that "interesting" times are ahead of them.

35 posted on 11/27/2003 1:28:20 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: pepsionice
I think the right-wing elements of Germany also have an impact on the future...they are coming back...and need a whipping boy (no Jews left...so the Muslims will likely be next).

In parts, I can confirm this. It is true, that the security agencies are investigating the connections between (Neo-)Nazis and extremist Muslims. There are more and more contacts, and the common enemies are the US and Israel.

But I cannot confirm the claim that the number of Nazis has risen, such cannot be concluded from the statistics of the domestic intelligence. However, the Nazis are becoming more active than they´ve been the last years.

37 posted on 11/27/2003 2:02:06 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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