Support Mounting for Stronger Assault-Weapons Ban (know the enemy)

Join Together ^ | 11-20-03 | Dick Dahl

[Dan from Michigan]

sell a fearsome array of semi-automatic weaponry whose only purpose is to terrorize

I can terroize a lot more people with my .30-06 if I'm at a distance, or my Mossberg if I'm in close.

That law, sponsored by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) and Reps. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and John Conyers (D-MI) would simply tighten up the definition of "assault weapon" and eliminate the many loopholes that weaken the current law

One provision here has the AG as a dictator banning any gun he calls an assault weapon. Don't take my word for it, look it up in thomas.

States United to Protect Gun Violence

That would be my state's own Carolynne Jarvis who gets paid $80000 for doing nothing. The Michigan group(MPPGV) has few members, and gets almost all their funding by either the Joyce Foundation out of Chicago (which funds Join Together) or from the TIDES Foundations/Tsunami Funds and Andrew McKelvey.

"gun rights," support of "assault weapons"

Josh Sugarmann coined that term a long time ago. There's a reason why WORDS mean things. This is also the reason why I ask all the time "What's an assault weapon?".

Consumer Federation of America (CFA)
Another leftist freedom hating organization. I think Soros and Tides fund them.

Opinion Research Corporation International
Never heard of them.

Sudbay sees the same thing happening. "I think there's much more grassroots activity at the state level on this than anything I've seen in years."

You people don't know what grassroots is. I see pro-2a groups all the time at events. I've seen TWO anti rights events in the last 4 years.

[Dan from Michigan]

Boom

[Lurker]

Support for gun control cost the Dems the House in 94, and Gore the Presidency in 2000.

Let them campaign on this as 'an issue'. It's a loser for them.

L

[Uncle Hal]

Hopefully, Tom Delay and his friends will tie this bill up in the House so that it never sees the light of day.

[blackie]

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!

[ArrogantBustard]

If you haven't rattled your congressthingss cages about this issue yet ...

...

What are you waiting for????

[Hat-Trick]

"Many of us actually feel very good about the direction things are going on assault weapons," said Miller.

Oh, I forgot, your "feelings" are specifically mentioned in the 2nd Amendment, aren't they Mr. Gasbag Miller.

If you want to march your children off to slavery in a foreign land, by all means search your "feelings" and be the first one in line. As for me, and what I believe are millions like me, we'll just go ahead and keep all our guns to defend ourselves, our families, and our nation from jackasses like you.

Hat-Trick

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Bush said he'd sign it.

[wjcsux]

"Bear Arms or Wear Chains".

[Hat-Trick]

To Miller, this kind of cynical behavior by the gun industry is especially painful because his younger brother, an FBI agent, was killed in 1994 by a man using a gun called a Cobray MAC-10 that would be banned. "The company stopped making it when the ban came into place," Miller said. "They changed it cosmetically, brought it out again as the MAC 11, and they advertised it as, `The MAC is back.'"

A couple more things, Mr. Gasbag Miller. First, condolences on the loss of your brother. Second, I'd like you to surrender the keys & title to any personal vehicles you might own, as well as to sign a pledge to never again imbibe any amount of alcohol, because I know of people who have been killed by drunk drivers. We don't want to punish only the drunk drivers for these tradgedies. We want to feel better about the situation by denying you the possibility to ever drink and drive in the future, regardless of anything that the Constitution of the United States might have to say. Anxiously anticipating your support for this type of legislation, I remain,

Insincerely,

Hat-Trick

[cryptical]

Bush said he'd sign it.

Then Bush will be a one termer like his Dad.

[MosesKnows]

Support Mounting for Stronger Assault-Weapons Ban

I care little about bans on assault-weapons but they damn well better leave my constitutional right to anti-assualt-weapons alone.

[RJL]

The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation International in early September, found that 62 percent of the more than 1,000 Americans surveyed said that they favored renewing the ban, including 47 percent who said they "strongly" favor renewal.

Seems like just a year ago the gun banners were claiming 80% public support, while at the same time the gun banning politicians were being driven from office. Now they claim 62% support and are excited about it. If they keep losing 18% of their supporters yearly, I will be very excited too.

Democrats, please, please, keep shouting from the rooftops that you want to ban guns.

[GOP_1900AD]

We should be emulating Switzerland and requiring all able bodied men to keep so called "assault weapons" in their homes. We should also make purchases of military style rifles and optics, ammo and training to go with them tax deductable. What an excellent distributed deterant to the enemies of the West. Now, if this is true, then those who want to ban gun ownership by law abiding people are therefore on the side of our enemies.

[FateAmenableToChange]

"We found not only that a majority of gun owners support renewing the ban, but support measures to strengthen the ban,"

Liar. Show me your numbers. Oh, I forgot, they never existed.

[chainsaw]

Not that such guns aren't being sold now, as the Bushmaster XM15 that was used to strike fear in metropolitan Washington, D.C. last fall makes evident

If I remember correctly, the Bushmaster, a semi-automatic rifle, which is not an assault weapon, was used but only one shot was fired in each killing. This could have been accomplished with a single shot rifle as well. How in the world does this pertain to the killing, other than the fact that it is a gun?

[chainsaw]

Bush said he'd sign it.

Only because DeLay said it would never get to Bush's desk. What can the democrats fault Bush for on this - They can't. If it does get to Bush's desk he can say that it's not the bill he said he would sign, and make congress over-ride his veto.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

He said he would sign a bill attacking the first amendment in the name of (pseudo) campaign finance reform and he did.

He said he would sign a (trillion dollar) prescription drug entitlement and he did.

He said he would renew the assault on the second amendment and he will.

[chainsaw]

He said he would renew the assault on the second amendment and he will.

It's not on his desk yet, and never will be.

[longtermmemmory]

Here is as serious question did the second amendment make a difference in 2000 and 2002?

Why did bush support drilling in alaska and baning it in FL? Answer the voters wanted it.

Why did he sign the partial birth abortion ban? Answer the voters wanted it.

Why the perscription drug thing? Answer the voters wanted it.

Will he support the ban renewal? If the voters want it.


Which brings me back to the first question, did the second amendment make a difference in 2000 and 2002