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To: PMCarey
Thus your argument that Connally reacts a full two seconds after Kennedy is shot has no basis in fact

The basis in fact is that the wrist wound was the least of Connally's problems. He had a golf-ball sized hole blown in his chest. He had a sucking chest wound. His wife saved his life unwittingly. As she drew him down out of the line of fire she pulled his arm over the chest wound. She also placed her arm over her husbands arm and thus sealed the open wound. She did not know to do this, it was just an accident of the event. She was clear. She saw Kennedy's hands at his throat, later she heard the shot that hit her husband. Now rifle bullets travel faster than sound, but she had already heard the shot that hit Kennedy as this was what caused her to look back at him. In any event a sucking chest wound is not something one can ignore. Look at the film. While Kennedy has his hands at his throat Connally is turning forward. He faces forward then turns back to his right. It is some time into this turn that he is hit, as described by his wife. The film shows exactly that sequence.

78 posted on 11/25/2003 3:48:11 PM PST by AndrewC (Democracy is about voting. Even Dictatorships vote. NO FILIBUSTERS!!!!)
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To: AndrewC
You Wrote:
"The basis in fact is that the wrist wound was the least of Connally's problems. He had a golf-ball sized hole blown in his chest. He had a sucking chest wound. His wife saved his life unwittingly. As she drew him down out of the line of fire she pulled his arm over the chest wound. She also placed her arm over her husbands arm and thus sealed the open wound. She did not know to do this, it was just an accident of the event. She was clear. She saw Kennedy's hands at his throat, later she heard the shot that hit her husband. Now rifle bullets travel faster than sound, but she had already heard the shot that hit Kennedy as this was what caused her to look back at him. In any event a sucking chest wound is not something one can ignore. Look at the film. While Kennedy has his hands at his throat Connally is turning forward. He faces forward then turns back to his right. It is some time into this turn that he is hit, as described by his wife. The film shows exactly that sequence."

The individual stills from the Zabruder film are amazing (be your own detective!). I agree that Connally was shot after Kennedy was shot - and will surmise that CONNALLY was shot from the grassy knoll.

Looking at the Zabruder clips, I say Kennedy is shot on clip #226. The camera goes fuzzy on #227 when Z reacts to the noise of the shot. Connally's hat goes up from his lap in #230 - either reacting to the shot, noise from Kennedy - or perhaps the bullet through Kennedy's neck hitting him, but not severe enough for him to really know what had happened to him - or for him to woory about (the thigh wound?).

From #230 to #271 Connally is turning to look at Kennedy. At #261 he is talking (part of the Oh no, no, no that his wife said "that he said as he was turning to look at the President") Also at #261, Jackie is looking at Connally - she may still not realize what is going on, and is looking at the person talking, as we are apt to do. (Or, that's just how her body is, and she still doesn't know that it was a shot yet.)

ANYWAY - before and after frame #271 Connally's hat (and hand and wrist) are in FRONT of his CHEST as he is turning to face the President. After about #271 Connally is out of the picture. The picture is fuzzy again around frame #291 - when Zabruder reacts to the shot from the grassy knoll that hits Connally in the wrist and then straight into his chest. The bullet tumbles upon hitting his wrist bone - hence the elongated hole as the bullet EXITS Connally's back.

Connally doesn't come back into view until later (forget what frame) and is on the way down to being pulled into Mrs. Connally's lap.

So- two bullets into Kennedy (neck and Head), one into the curb, and a fourth from the grassy knoll into Connally. And looking at the clips, although not an expert at body movements after being hit by a bullet, I would say that the blood and tissue sprays forward into the car. And yes, the head does move back after the initial blow. After his brains are blown forward, either the mass of the brains exiting his head bushes the head back, or the head, now without muscle control to hold it upright, stays STATIONARY as the body moves forward with the moving car. (By the way, prior to seeing this clip by clip of the film it always looked to me like the shot was from the front!)

There's my 2 cents! (And I've never heard of the idea that Connally was the one shot from the grassy knoll - what am I missing?)


132 posted on 11/26/2003 12:03:37 AM PST by geopyg (Democracy, whiskey, sexy)
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