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THAT SAID, neither do I think the State has the right to force the private obsessions and 'guilty pleasures' of assorted losers by according porn the status of "Free Speech" and consistently ruling in its favor

Heh. Clockwork Orange to the contrary, respecting the right of adults to indulge in adult pleasures is not forcing these same pleasures into propped-open eyes of
the unwilling any more than a speaker at the public square is forcing views into
the passerby in the act of speaking them. Porn is, indeed, free speech. All else
follows.

=== Clockwork Orange to the contrary, respecting the right of adults to indulge in adult pleasures is not forcing these same pleasures into propped-open eyes of
the unwilling any more than a speaker at the public square is forcing views into
the passerby in the act of speaking them

Again, you yourself beg the question: are images the same thing as speech?

I find it curious in the extreme that a society which accepts absolutely the notion of the body as a machine receptive to stimuli ... Naked Apes whose involuntary responses to porn (did you know women like it as much as men?) can be measured ... is going to equate pornographic images with the Spoken Word.

For starters, people must actually Listen (a lost art) and Understand (rotsa ruck) in order to be influenced in the least by an utterance of an Idea.

And it's Ideas, was it not, that were the substance of Free Speech? What is exactly is the Idea conveyed by images geared solely to excite a person into not thinking so much.

Isn't "Free Speech" precisely and by definition the stuff of the Public Square? Diogenes and Girls Gone Wild aside, how many of us really think to convey ideas or persuade others to a cause by masturbating to pictures in the public square?

The whole thing's absurd.

=== respecting the right of adults to indulge in adult pleasures is not forcing these same pleasures into propped-open eyes of the unwilling

Do you have kids? Because if you had kids you'd realize they're like sponges who take in everything and question what they don't understand.

I sat down to watch the Super Bowl with my grandfather this year -- made treats, had trays at the ready for supper -- and was humiliated.

All the time I was growing up, Super Bowl Sunday was a family affair. I can only hope my sister's kis -- very bright, observant children -- were off playing during the commercials. Why should I need to explain what a threesome is to a nine-year old if he wants to know why everyone was laughing at the Bud commercial?

It's become so pedestrian, I don't think it even registers with most anymore.

Porn as "Free Speech" is a giant sucking sound ... black holes of nerve endings to monitor where the thinking brain used to be.