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California Senate has voted to repeal SB 60! (Drivers' Licenses for Illegals Being REPEALED Now!)

Posted on 11/24/2003 4:34:03 PM PST by ElkGroveDan

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To: BurbankKarl
Only the author can withdraw a bill prior to the governor's signature. And believe me, Rico Oller is one of the top three conservatives in the California Senate (along with Hollingsworth and McClintock). That simply will not happen.
261 posted on 11/25/2003 10:48:16 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: marajade
Still thinking McClintock would have been better than Arnold? McClintock would have never been this successful in taking the issue to the public.

Where do you get that? I am grateful for Arnold's support, but so far this has been the landslide fear of the Dems who checked the polls the day after the election. This is all about the fallout of the RECALL which was a bigger vote than just Arnold. Arnold has yet to participate in this repeal, though he certainly will sign the bill when it gets to his desk.

McClintock would have stopped it just as effectively, and he wouldn't be talking about a different version later on with so-called security precautions the way Arnold is.

262 posted on 11/25/2003 10:56:14 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: 45Auto
Very interesting. As a confirmed cynic, I would like to know what kind of a "deal" was struck with the RATs for some sort of future treachery? This is very uncharacteristic of them, so used are they to getting their way every time with the last butt-wipe governor. Those scumbags do not scare easily, so I wonder what Arnold had to give up for this?

Maybe they're counting on the groping charges to stick in the coming months. They could have some kind of scam going with that scumbag Attorney General Bill Lockyer about trolling for some teasing little tart who will manufacture some sex charge, complete with manufactured evidence. Most likely, they'll hold it over him in the form of political blackmail.

Then again, the RATS could be practicing their time-honored battle cry: When the going gets tough, bug out!

263 posted on 11/25/2003 10:57:54 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: ridesthemiles
Still- no one tell me why it is that they just can't use their Mexican licenses here. Mexican truckers use them everyday in California - perfectly legal.
264 posted on 11/25/2003 11:42:19 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Joy Angela
Are you high?

GW has done NOTHING to secure our borders from the illegal alien invasion, and Schwarzenegger has all but pledged to sign Cedilli's "safer" version of SB 60 next year.

265 posted on 11/25/2003 11:46:19 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Rico was one of the few Republican legislators with the cajones to stand up and endorse Tom over Mr. S, he's a solid guy.
266 posted on 11/25/2003 11:49:31 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"I'm voting against the repeal," said Sen. Nell Soto, D-Pomona. "And I think it's only the right thing to do. Everybody should have a driver's license. If you're driving without a license, it's illegal."

Well if you’re here illegally, it’s illegal.

267 posted on 11/25/2003 12:15:43 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: BurbankKarl
they will withdraw this law, then try to regroup and pass it again with background checks

I'd support a new law with background checks... so long as SoCalRocket (me) is in charge of the background checks:

Illegal Alien Applying for Driver's License (IAAFDL): Here's my application.

So Cal Rocket (SCR): Thank you, wait over there, please.

5 minutes later.

SCR: Mr. IAAFDL, come here, please.

IAAFDL: Yes?

SCR: Your background check shows you're in the country illegally - please go through that door marked "DMV-BC Annex"

IAAFDL: OK, but what does DMV-BC Annex mean?

SCR: Department of Motor Vehicles-Border Control Annex, you're on the next bus back to your home country.

SCR: Next?

268 posted on 11/25/2003 12:29:01 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: StoneColdGOP
Rico was one of the few Republican legislators with the cajones to stand up and endorse Tom over Mr. S, he's a solid guy.

The other one was Dennis Hollingsworth. That's why I mentioned the three. That is now my minimum standard to be thought of as a conservative stalwart in Sacramento. The only other two are Assemblyman Jay LaSuer and Assemblyman Dennis Mountjoy. Maybe we could call them the Righteous Gang of Five.

269 posted on 11/25/2003 12:47:19 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: ElkGroveDan
There was one other, Tony Strickland, another McClintock protege.

So make it a Righteous Gang of Six.

At least we know those 7 total have some real spine.
270 posted on 11/25/2003 12:56:20 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Damn!!!!!

I was hoping Commufornia wouldn't repeal that bill, so that Earth could revoke reciprocity on Commufornian drivers' licenses and refuse to let Commufornians cross the borders into Earth any more...

oh well...

271 posted on 11/25/2003 1:01:05 PM PST by fire_eye (All leftists are identical, when viewed through an ACOG...)
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To: visualops
If an IA DL comes to pass, IMHO it should be a specially marked license that cannot be used for any purpose other than driving, and cannot be used to get further documentation to make them appear legal. Personally I think it's a big step in the wrong direction to reward criminals though.

Oh, I think licenses for illegals would be a great idea, with the provisos that you mentioned.

272 posted on 11/25/2003 10:21:47 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It passed 33-0.

XLNT!

273 posted on 11/25/2003 10:28:00 PM PST by Bullish
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To: supercat
Why should people in criminal violation of our immigration laws be granted driving privileges?

They should be made to walk back to Mexico, picking up trash as they go.
274 posted on 11/26/2003 5:00:31 AM PST by dsc
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To: Political Junkie Too
Yes, but in TENNESSEE???
275 posted on 11/26/2003 11:25:44 PM PST by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: Terridan
If Tennessee voted Democrat in 2000, Gore would be president today. The sad fact of warfare (even political warfare) is that the losing side is always found to be fighting yesterday's war, meaning that they are stuck on the tactics of the last war, not the innovative way of winning the next war.

Perhaps the Democrats feel that if only they had the Latino vote (and yes, even in Tennessee) they would have won.

The new winning tactic apparently is to stop the "class" pandering and brazen party power grabs and do right for the country. Will the Democrats "get it?"

-PJ

276 posted on 11/27/2003 12:31:10 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Probably not... but I feel the Fed's must step in on all states doing this ridiculous compromising of our security. How can ID be safe in this country, especially for security sensitive airlines... I keep praying that this error will not cost any more innocent American lives. God Bless.
277 posted on 11/28/2003 12:39:16 AM PST by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: Terridan
How can ID be safe in this country...

I once suggested requiring passports to vote, even having the government pay for issuing them instead of a new national ID card, since they already had the beauracracy in place and they wouldn't want to risk losing the international credibility of our passports to voter fraud.

I was beaten down with calls for "your papers, please."

-PJ

278 posted on 11/28/2003 12:51:39 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
We, out here in Kalifornia, have been screaming about this very thing for years! In fact, all of our family members and friends have applied for and recieved their passports, hoping that if enough of us push this issue, it will be required, or at least, a valid gov't ID. I know other states will not accept our DL for ID, so how can you verify you being you, even with a credit card? You ideas are right on, and I wish it would spread like wildfire....
God bless!
279 posted on 11/29/2003 7:51:28 AM PST by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: Terridan
I'm in California, too.

Here's the link to my post from December 2000: USA Should Require Passports To Vote

-PJ

280 posted on 11/29/2003 1:40:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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