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To: Peach
Yeah, we got this Thomas Trantino guy in Jersey. Kills two cops in cold blood, is convicted and sentenced to death, then has his sentenced commuted to life, and is now out on parole after 30 years. I would not necessarily like to see this guy in the ground, but I would sure like to see him in prison for the rest of his life.
23 posted on 11/24/2003 7:45:38 AM PST by gridlock (OK, so I was wrong about Hillary! announcing for President. Sue me!)
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To: gridlock
While in principle the death penalty doesn't trouble me, I guess I can understand generally disliking the death penalty, especially given some of the uncertainties that surround its application.

However, I cannot understand the absolutist position any more than I can understand the absolutist position on abortion: the world is just messier than that, and sometimes we do some things that might not be the morally ideal because the alternatives are morally more reprehensible. It seems to me that sometimes there are individuals who put themselves so far beyond the pale of tolerable behavior -- even tolerable criminality (tolerable in the sense that the punishment for it is limited) that they cannot be permitted to ever possibliy prey on society again. For me that militates for execution: it is certain and it avoids subsidizing the animal's existence. When we as a society face choices about the use of resources, I'm not willing to spend significant sums to house, feed and guard truly dangerous criminals. No one made them do the crime. I suppose an exaggerated sense of fairness might dictate announcing a head of time that murderers (without extenuating circumstances) would after a date certain no longer be tolerated, but the death penalty has been on the books and the criminals knew it was there.

45 posted on 11/24/2003 7:57:12 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: gridlock
NJ High Schools have invited Trantino to come to their schools to speak to the students.
89 posted on 11/24/2003 8:25:14 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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