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Death Sentence Imposed on DC Sniper John Muhammed
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | 11/24/2003 | Fox News

Posted on 11/24/2003 7:35:06 AM PST by Catspaw

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To: Catspaw
Death Sentence Imposed on DC Sniper John Muhammed.

Courtesy of a law-abiding Virginia jury. Thank God the trial wasn't in DC!

121 posted on 11/24/2003 9:02:00 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: DoctorMichael
Its too bad we couldn't kill him twice.

I agree. But if it can only be once, what is the "best" method? Firing squad seems somehow appropriate--but it is too quick.

122 posted on 11/24/2003 9:03:46 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: CatoRenasci
Well, we're all animals as far as it goes, so don't read so much into the comment. Some animals are civilized, others are so far beyond the pale one wonders....

Call it conceit, or what have you, but I like to think that humans are something more than animals.

123 posted on 11/24/2003 9:04:54 AM PST by gridlock (OK, so I was wrong about Hillary! announcing for President. Sue me!)
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To: TexKat; All
Convicted sniper John Allen Muhammad

Bull$#!+ on burnt toast!!! This murderous little freak is not a sniper, nor was he ever. He is not convicted of "sniping" , indeed "sniping" is not a crime in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Sniping is a valuable military skill, which the USMC teaches in Virginia.

Let us call mr. muhammad by his right name: He is a convicted terrorist. He is a convicted murderer. He is a convicted conspirator. He is a convicted abuser of firearms.

To apply the term sniper to Convicted Terrorist John Muhammad is to insult all of the brave and honourable snipers in our armed forces.

124 posted on 11/24/2003 9:06:28 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: gridlock
I am very nearly an anti-death penalty absolutist.

If one is a Christian or a Jew, or even just a general theist, you shouldn't feel guilty wishing the death penalty on proven murderers.

1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. 4But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.5And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.

6"Whoever sheds the blood of man,
by man shall his blood be shed,
for God made man in his own image.

7And you,[1] be fruitful and multiply, teem on the earth and multiply in it."

8Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him, 9"Behold, I establish my covenant with you and your offspring after you, 10and with every living creature that is with you, the birds, the livestock, and every beast of the earth with you, as many as came out of the ark; it is for every beast of the earth. 11I establish my covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." 12And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant that I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all future generations: 13I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, 15I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh. And the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16When the bow is in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth." 17God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth."(Genesis 9:1-17)

This is called the "Noahetic Covanent" and since it was with Noah, ancestor of every human alive today, it applys to everyone (unlike later covenants which applied only to Israel). It has the seemingly ironic quality in that it clearly establishes the reason for the death penalty is just BECAUSE humans are made in the image of God. (think of that pro-lifers!) To destroy God's image is such a henious act that God commands (not merely allows) that governing authorities execute anyone who would do such evil. In no case does this more obviously apply than with Mohummed and Malvo.

(By the way, this covenant, in the verses immediately preceding the underlined part, also clearly allows for the eating of meat--so one should never let vegetarians act as if they are morally superior--we have God's word on it that they are not.)

If you are tempted to think, this was so long ago, and it doesn't apply to us in such modern times...ponder the rainbow, which says it does.

125 posted on 11/24/2003 9:06:28 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: gridlock
'Cept he's not really an animal, is he?

You're right. He's below an animal.

126 posted on 11/24/2003 9:06:49 AM PST by b4its2late (The only substitute for good manners is faster reflexes.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
We haven't had a good public hanging in a long time.
127 posted on 11/24/2003 9:07:05 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: DoctorMichael
Its too bad we couldn't kill him twice.

It's also regrettable that they managed to escape the punishment that they deserved, such as that received by Mark Essex in the 1973 New Orleans sniper incident:


128 posted on 11/24/2003 9:07:14 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Be very, very careful when you start deciding that some humans are less-than-human. That particulary distinction has been a necessary component of every murderous tyranny there ever was.
129 posted on 11/24/2003 9:07:58 AM PST by gridlock (OK, so I was wrong about Hillary! announcing for President. Sue me!)
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To: gridlock
Predators get used to prison....in fact they thrive on it.

NOI will treat him as a hero.
130 posted on 11/24/2003 9:10:25 AM PST by wardaddy (we must crush our enemies and make them fear us and sap their will to fight....all 2 billion of them)
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To: TomGuy
Malvo = black muslim bitch.
131 posted on 11/24/2003 9:11:19 AM PST by biblewonk (I must answer all bible questions.)
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To: mhking
Per FNC, when Muhammed was led away, he had a "faint smirk" as his only show of emotion.

Maybe he was day dreaming about the 72 virgins...

132 posted on 11/24/2003 9:11:42 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: Catspaw
BUMPING for justice!

Question: How many more of these jihad pervs are running around?

133 posted on 11/24/2003 9:13:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: gridlock
Oh, I won't dispute that humans are more than animals, but I still think we are animals as well. Whe a human is so depraved that he/she has murdered intentionally in ways such as this creep, I would be hardpressed to say society should have to support the body's existence, and the external evidence suggests the soul is in thrall to some dark power. Perhaps the possiblity of repentence and salvation exist, but that's between the perp and his Maker. Just don't ask the taxpayers to pay for keeping the perp's body alive.
134 posted on 11/24/2003 9:14:31 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Peach
Predators get used to prison. It is their realm.
135 posted on 11/24/2003 9:14:48 AM PST by wardaddy (we must crush our enemies and make them fear us and sap their will to fight....all 2 billion of them)
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To: YourAdHere; Catspaw
Sentence Lee Boyd Malvo to life at Neverland Ranch!

He'd probably feel right at home. I remember some of the early news reports revealed that Malvo and Muhammud had a homosexual relationship. Of course, that's been hushed up long since.

136 posted on 11/24/2003 9:17:12 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: DoctorMichael
The last public execution was in Owensboro,Kentucky in 1936,20,000 in attendance at the hanging.States made laws that all executions be held in an enclosure,away from the public,witnesses only in attendance..
137 posted on 11/24/2003 9:17:17 AM PST by MEG33
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To: CatoRenasci
It's easy to justify killing an animal. I am only interested in justifications for killing a man. These arguments can be made, and well may be convicing. But to say that killing Muhammad is the same a killing an animal supports the notion that some humans are less-than-human, and are not deserving of human rights.

This is all well and good, until one is one of those so designated.

Keep in mind that utilitarian arguments about societal cost and the reduced stature of humanity are one of the most frequent arguments of those who support abortion on demand.
138 posted on 11/24/2003 9:20:53 AM PST by gridlock (OK, so I was wrong about Hillary! announcing for President. Sue me!)
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To: MEG33
Thanks for the info.
139 posted on 11/24/2003 9:21:16 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Catspaw
The decision of the jury will be announced within 15 minutes.

How about carrying it out 15 minutes after that...

140 posted on 11/24/2003 9:21:50 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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