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To: Luis Gonzalez
Wrong. The arabs on the saudi peninsula worshiped thier moon god. And believed in djinnis, efreet, etc. The shrine at Medina was a temple to that moon god for centuries before muhammed was born.

Muhammed saw how well the Christians and Jews were doing, being civilized and joined in a common theology.
So Muhammed took selected scripture from the Torah and Bible and incoporated them with the moon gods followers beliefs to create something for the arabs.

Do you really believe the God of Abraham desires conversion to him or death? that its ok to lie to nonbelievers? Or many other blatant discrepancies?

You do understand, don't you, that Mosque on the mount in jerusalem was created as a way to diminish the God of Abraham? By defiling the site of the Jewish Temple after the barbarian arab hordes killed raped and pillaged Jerusalem?

Or the fact that Medina(I THINK it was Medina, been a while) was a large hugely successful Jewish city? And that the lusting for thier riches, it was proclaimed a muslim holy site and the jews driven out?

People around here need to actually read the histories and not the revisionist crap that passes for history now.

Islam is one big lie from beginning to end. A false religion, a cult of hate, and death. Has been from the GETGO.

Don't take my word for it. Do some real research.
174 posted on 11/25/2003 9:57:36 PM PST by Stopislamnow
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To: Stopislamnow
Nope. it is true.

God is God.

Our understanding of him is made perfect thru God's revealations in Jesus Christ.

But many non believers in Jesus nevertheless worship God as best they understand him, although their understanding of him is partial or distorted. That is why we find good people in all religions.

Remember when Paul saw the shrine to the unknown God? He didn't tell the worshippers that they were worshipping a false God, but showed them that this "unknown god" had come to earth as Jesus to tell them more about himself.

This is how we evangelize other cultures. Many good people become Christian because they find a deeper truth of their original beliefs in Christ's teaching. They are not rejecting their God, but recognizing that they had an incomplete or distorted idea in their original beliefs, and were happy that they now saw the true picture...

Most muslims love God as revealed by Abraham and Moses. They have many distortions in their religion, but it is the same God...


17 posted on 11/20/2003 8:04 AM EST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)

176 posted on 11/25/2003 10:09:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Stopislamnow
"Do you really believe the God of Abraham desires conversion to him or death?"

You're kidding...right?

Deuteronomy 13 6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.

Exodus 22:18-20 Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.

Exodus 32:27-28,35 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: `Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died ... And the LORD struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

Numbers 25:1-9 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the men began to indulge in sexual immorality with Moabite women, who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate and bowed down before these gods. So Israel joined in worshiping the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them.

The LORD said to Moses, "Take all the leaders of these people, kill them and expose them in broad daylight before the LORD, so that the LORD's fierce anger may turn away from Israel." So Moses said to Israel's judges, "Each of you must put to death those of your men who have joined in worshiping the Baal of Peor." Then an Israelite man brought to his family a Midianite woman right before the eyes of Moses and the whole assembly of Israel while they were weeping at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting.

When Phinehas son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron, the priest, saw this, he left the assembly, took a spear in his hand and followed the Israelite into the tent. He drove the spear through both of them--through the Israelite and into the woman's body. Then the plague against the Israelites was stopped; but those who died in the plague numbered 24,000.

180 posted on 11/25/2003 10:27:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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