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A Memo to American Muslims ("EXCELLENT READ")
Islam for Today ^ | Unknown | Dr. M. A. Muqtedar Khan

Posted on 11/23/2003 7:37:34 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
He sounds almost Christian .... I wonder how long until some demented imam or gutter mullah proclains a fatwa killing against him ....
61 posted on 11/23/2003 10:54:23 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
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To: FairOpinion
It is old.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/546460/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/551665/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/555731/posts

Reported in Larry Elder's column, October 25, 2001;
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/printle20011025.shtml

And other places.
62 posted on 11/23/2003 11:08:12 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: sheik yerbouty
Mansoor Ijaz is Muslim, and he has tangibly has been helping us in the WoT.

He was the one who was negotiating Sudan handing over Bin Laden to us, but Clinton wouldn't take him.
63 posted on 11/23/2003 11:16:25 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Centurion2000
"Islamic resurgence, the cherished ideals of which pursued the ultimate goal of a universally just and moral society has been hijacked by hate and call for murder and mayhem."The author is simply wrong, where is there a universally { for all peoples} and just society in the world of Islamic nations? Saudi Arabia?, Afghanastan? Iran?,
Pakistan? Syria? Where all persons no matter their religion, or lack thereof all have equality????
64 posted on 11/23/2003 11:28:21 PM PST by BOOTSTICK
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To: FairOpinion
I think it would be great if someone who knew how to hack websites would post this article on Al Queda's website, Al Jazeera etc. That's the only way they'll see the message.
65 posted on 11/23/2003 11:52:15 PM PST by tinamina
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To: McGavin999
Sorry, I didn't notice your post. I was looking for links to the first postings and glossed over you. I remember reading Elder's column and found it in an old folder from 2001.
See post #62 for some of the Free Republic threads from then.
66 posted on 11/23/2003 11:54:32 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: FairOpinion
"I just think that we should give a chance and support the few, who are trying to talks some sense into their fellow Muslims."

It will never happen until they reject the Koran. The history of Islam is of conquest, discrimination, lies, subjugation, and slavery. The very basis of Islam is not of love and respect, but of certain eventual death to all who do not agree with it.

They are angry with the success of the rest of the world and like the soviets would rather take it and make it theirs without the work to develop it on their own. Like the soviets they either need to be beaten or destroyed.

They are a primative group, barely a mob. Show us what development to benefit the world as come from an Islamic state in the last 50 years. Send us the link to the scientific article about some discovery they made that will benefit humanity. Send the article about the medical discovery or technique has come from a moslem country in the last 50 years.

Send us the text of any Islamic counties laws that show unequivical belief that all men are created equal and deserve the equal protections of that state.

I am sorry sir, but I know you can show NONE of those things... because they do not exist. Their very religion prevents those things. Until they shun their religion and it's EVIL foundations they are not to be trusted nor worthy of being equal partners with the CIVILIZED world.

This man is playing part of their religions play book, the Koran to a "T"... deceive their enemies until they can kill or enslave them. I don't buy it at all and hopefully neither does most of America.

Heaven help our country if more of us don't see it soon. I assure you the heaven I speak of does not promise me 78 (or whatever) virgins and several young boys for my own pleasure.

Geez what sort of sick people and religion would promise or want that?

Oh! That's right it is Islam.

67 posted on 11/24/2003 12:14:36 AM PST by JSteff
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To: FairOpinion
The Koran and other scriptures COMMAND "good" muslims to first kill peaceful ("hypocrites") muslims even before the "spawn of pigs and monkeys" (Jews)..."where ever you can find them". "Good" muslims must kill "bad" muslims, who are willing to live and let live, like 90+% of all men, women, and children on earth.

Keep in mind that of all populations, some 3-5% are sociopathic, 1-3% are psychopaythic. There a claimed billion or so muslims, at least that many live in islamic claimed territory. More about that later.

Some estimates I've read indicate that around 10% of muslims qre devout muslims, meaning "good" muslims who believe that they are commanded to kill "bad" muslims, Jews, and infedels, aka you and me.

This is the daily islamic message, especially on their good Fridays call to mosque. Think of it. Their prophet was a murdering desert caravan raider who kight tripped and decided that invasions' booty was the best life, living well off of other societies; greqter productivity. The rampage was checked several times; dar al-islam is their dogma thqat once islam's territory, always islam's territory. That is why they cannot allow Israel to exist. Paris is to be once again theirs, as is Spain, Portugal, Balkans, etc., etc. etc.

Islam is the death cult of the third and fourth world which is breeding jihadies faster than we are willing to kill them, so far.

Jihadies attacking us are engaged in their resumption of their religious war. Watch their young jihadies, whether in Iraq or West Bank, they want to kill their enemies. They slaughter their suspected traitors and hang them from their own street lamps.

This war has been slow to ignite, since Tehran in 1979 to 9/11. We will be in aa total war after we lose a city or more to nukes or a Black Pox. We will not likely know who, as in a crime scene model of the Clintons era, so who do we attack? Attack we must, amid a worldwide condemnation of GW's war mongering "terrorism".

War is hell. Our enemies think that their societies' hell is our fault. We must make dead certain that when we are shocked to the truth that islam is our mortal enemy, as it is written, we annihilate the nest procreating the jihadies who live to murder us, according to their Koran, Haddith, other scriptures and fatwa after fatwa. "Death to America!" Submit or die; as it is written in their Koran.

Know your children's chilrens' mortal enemies and smite them. They are setting their sights on your families.

Prepare for total war at your front door and at your children's school.

We Christians may turn the other cheek, but our dead loved ones killed by "good" muslims is our reality. Atheists and pantheists have their own issues, but will die the same as the rest of us. Most of us are unwilling to face extinction by islamists without a fight, hightech and lowtech.

Who shall fight for us so that we may live our lives in peace without islam's theofascism constantly killing some of us?
68 posted on 11/24/2003 12:18:02 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: umgud
I imagine the author will be branded an Uncle Tom

There's precedent:

Brief history of Uncle Tom and all hijabs (lefty muslim org labels Amir Taheri as "Uncle Tom") ^
      Posted by Stultis
On 10/18/2003 2:23 AM CDT with 6 comments


Muslim WakeUp ^ | 27 August 2003 | Jawad Ali
August 27, 2003 Brief history of Uncle Tom and all hijabs Let us start with...Muslim Wakeup! guide to writing a neo-con article about Muslims.It is a simple three-part process. Any dimwitted chicken hawk can do this. Many have. Start with something obnoxious, real or imagined, that some Muslim may have done. Take extra care to blur the line between the offender and the remaining one billion Muslims. No matter what the obnoxious act is, always make the dramatic assertion that this shows that the culprit, but really all Muslims, are real or closet terrorists, Nazis, or communists, and about to...
     
 
Muslim MP slams 'extremist' muslim talks, spokesman calls him a "Uncle Tom" ^
      Posted by Pikamax
On 08/23/2003 8:18 AM CDT with 11 comments


icbirmingham ^ | 08/23/03 | Guy Newey
MP slams 'extremist' muslim talks Aug 23 2003 By Guy Newey, Birmingham Post Birmingham’s only Muslim MP has condemned the organisers of a major Islamic event taking place in the city this weekend and said they were no different to the British National Party. Khalid Mahmood (pictured), MP for Perry Barr, hit out after a spokesman for the radical Islamic political party Hizb ut-Tahrir accused him of being an “Uncle Tom” figure in the Muslim community. Up to 10,000 delegates are expected to attend tomorrow’s event at the National Indoor Arena, which is entitled British or Muslim? and will debate...
 

69 posted on 11/24/2003 12:35:17 AM PST by Stultis
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To: FairOpinion
"would Muhammad (pbuh) sanction such an act?"

Sadly, yes, Muhammad WOULD sanction such an act. The Muslim world needs to wake up.
70 posted on 11/24/2003 3:18:16 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Mo1
Thanks for the ping. I'll be sending this around for people to read.

Prairie
71 posted on 11/24/2003 6:18:08 AM PST by prairiebreeze ("The hope that danger has passed is comforting, is understandable, and it is FALSE! "~~GWBush)
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To: FairOpinion
It is time that we acknowledge that the freedoms we enjoy in the US are more desirable to us than superficial solidarity with the Muslim World. If you disagree then prove it by packing your bags and going to whichever Muslim country you identify with. If you do not leave and do not acknowledge that you would rather live here than anywhere else, know that you are being hypocritical.



This is an enlightened man. I long for more like him.
72 posted on 11/24/2003 6:19:41 AM PST by FlyLow ("Arguing with a liberal is like wrestling a pig in the mud; soon you realize they like it")
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To: Coroner
Its time that we acknowledge that the freedoms we enjoy in the US are more desirable to us than superficial solidarity with the muslim world.

Its way too late for that. Is that an admission that muslims did'nt support the war on terror? The author just sees whats coming the muslims way and this pig doesnt like what he sees!!

So if they don't say anything they support the terrorists and if they do they are only acting in self-interest?

Actually, nearly all American Muslims have little or any use for the "sharia" supporting fundamentalists. They are here to get away from those people, not to spread that kind of bullclinton here. Those that are not should be condemned by their actions, not their beliefs. That's how things have been done here for over two hundred years.

-Eric

73 posted on 11/24/2003 6:26:04 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Doc On The Bay
Muslims are not anti-progress.

Most certainly those who live among progress are not.

The main difference between Muslims, Jews, and Christians right now, is the vitriol of radical Muslim clerics.

Your basic John Q. Muslim individual has the same day-to-day concerns that we do.

They work to feed their families, keep a roof over their heads, raise their children, etc.

John Q. Muslim does not strap a bunch of explosives to himself and walks into a crowded school, as a matter of fact, John Q. Muslim is getting killed by those bombs being set off by radicals.

John Q. Muslim feels powerless against these radicals, and most likely wishes that they would just let him be.

We need to raise the confidence of John Q. Muslim, to help him believe that he can be the master of his destiny, and to overcome the vestiges of a thousand years of the Imam's rule.

If we strive to elevate John Q. Muslim, and to eliminate the radicals, he will eventually police those radicals himself.
74 posted on 11/24/2003 6:37:46 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: E Rocc
I worked with 11 muslims. 6 of them were constantly trying to get me to hate Jews. The rest would remain silent! Their silence spoke volumes!! A large percentage want Islamo-land in the USA!!
75 posted on 11/24/2003 8:17:30 AM PST by Coroner
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To: Luis Gonzalez
In a poll posted on FR. 19% of Palestinians wanted to raise a little suicide bomber. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!
76 posted on 11/24/2003 8:26:43 AM PST by Coroner
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To: Coroner
So, based on the opinion of 19% of the Palestinians, mind you, 80% of Muslims live outside of the Middle East, and you cite a poll of ONLY Palestinians, we should declare war on 800 million people, and violate the constitutional rights of nearly 10 million Americans adherents?

So then, if I came up with a poll that said that 19% of French Catholics believed that abortion is a woman's right, should we then accept that abortion rights are the norm for Christians in the world?

Open YOUR eyes.
77 posted on 11/24/2003 9:02:57 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Coroner
By the way, I can post a poll that says that nearly 50% of Americans, the overwhelming majority of them self-described Christians, support abortion rights.

That means that Christians believe abortion is a right.

Right?

Your logic, not mine.
78 posted on 11/24/2003 9:05:00 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Coroner
"In a poll posted on FR. 19% of Palestinians wanted to raise a little suicide bomber. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!"

In other words, 81% of Palestinians would rather not see their children blowing themselves up in the name of Allah and some messed-up "Jihad".

I'm not the one with my eyes closed here.

79 posted on 11/24/2003 9:07:26 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: FairOpinion
There is also Fouad Ajami, but not many others.
80 posted on 11/24/2003 9:15:54 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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