Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 24-30

Various | November 23, 2003 | sweetliberty

[Aliska]

Nat Hentoff, "The Village Voice", November 21, 2003:

It's Not Only About Terri Schiavo, Barriers to Killing Come Down

[pc93]

Re: Terri's Hope Baloon Send

I just got an e-mail and it started to make me think about it too. I may have to decline to participate:

> Juan
> I don't know.
> At the moment, since last night I've been trying to get ahold of
> participants around the world to tell/ask them NOT to set off green helium
> balloons Thursday . . . for years we have known not to use helium balloons
> outside. They drift into the air over water and eventually end up in the
> water being eaten by dolphins or other fish or mammals. Then they suffocate
> to death!
> Animal rights activists will be mad over this and I didn't think Terri's
> group would want such a bad thing happening to show support for her. We
> haven't even used them for our children's parties for years because of this
> possibility. I was shocked that people down here don't know about those
> facts.
> I suggested taking their money and feeding the poor at Salvation Armies
> around the world instead. They could have Terri's name put on the donor's
> cards at each table and perhaps give out fliers about Terri.
> At least the monies wouldn't be harmful to other living things and would
> bring nice memories to our less fortunate.
> Hope your holidays are loving and meaningful.

[nicmarlo]

you have FReepmail.

[KDubRN]

I feel the pessimism as well. However, to those who are dealing with him, they are happy with what he has done thus far. I can't say, as I do not have the contact with him. Just hope they are right.
As for the judges, well, they are all corrupt up there, and they need a reality check ASAP. If they continue to pursue this along the same lines it had been going, revolution you will see. That's a given.

[pollywog]

Re: Terri's Hope Baloon Send I just got an e-mail and it started to make me think about it too. I may have to decline to participate:

> Juan

> I don't know. > At the moment, since last night I've been trying to get ahold of > participants around the world to tell/ask them NOT to set off green helium > balloons Thursday .

Good evening pc93 and Juan. I just got home from a emergency. My brother in law had a serious heart attack today with emergency surgery, so I am just catching up on the Terri threads. I actually was the one that suggested the helium balloons for Terri. I have never heard of any ecological hazards from them and so was surprised to read this. I would say that each person must decide then how he will respond. Balloons have been a part of our life for years. We have raised many foster children, birthday parties, etc, and never really gave much thought to the Dolphins. I am not flaming you at all, so don't think this is a attack, I am just saying each one will have to make that decision. I won't press it any more here on FreeRepublic. Thank you for sharing this pc93.BTW are there post # that you can refer me back to on this subject today?

[gooleyman]

Have a good time in Kentucky and have a safe trip there and back.

[pc93]

It was a personal e-mail. I just thought I would share. I haven't studied the ramifications of it. I've heard of Dolphins (getting caught in fish nets from the boats, etc.) and other animals eating stuff. I haven't heard of baloons. I would have to do a search on it. I just thought I would share the e-mail because it made me think about it.

[msmagoo]

Pollywog, I love your idea for launching helium balloons for Terri's Birthday!
However we celebrate it, the main thing is to do something special for her, whether public or private.

[pc93]

Hope everything is well.

[sweetliberty]

Thanks.

Here's a good article for any that have not seen it.

Suspicious Circumstances, the Strange Case of Terri Schiavo

[pc93]

Well I'm in contact with a very nice older lady and I was going through my e-mails from around the time of Terri's bill, etc. and so I shot off a reply to her about how everything was and she wrote me about the baloons and I didn't even say anything about it so I was kinda funning around and here is the last interaction:

Juan They'd never trade one life for another!! Seriously. There are other ways to get people's attention. Good attention.

If an animal dies over this; the media would have a banner day!

Instead get the media to cover the story of how Terri's 'people' gave the balloon money to help others survive a bleak holiday . . . win them over with compassion for others . . . not a disregard for other's (animals) lives.

Thanks for taking it off of your site. I just visited your site. It has alot of information I'll read! One post says Terri can have cards and gifts. I was told she can't have anything!

I did send a prayer to Lisa I wrote for Terri. Hope she took it.

I wanted Terri to know that she's an example for hundreds of thousands around the world and we've taken up her banner and won't let her down. If people know they're an example for others, they're stronger for it.

I wanted to send her a Teddy and cards when I first heard about her. Her soul-light just beams through . . . lighting the way for many of us to follow.

I am so blessed to be part of this fight,

----- Original Message -----
From: "pc93"
To: " "
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Did Terri's bill pass?????????????????????????????

> I see your point but what if this is what it takes to
> get animal activists aware of Terri's plight?! ;=] Welp
> I took it off my Terri Life Ribbon Campaign site:
>
>
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm
>
>
> Have any more ideas besides the below?
>
> Happy Holidays to you too!
>
> Keep in touch.

[msmagoo]

Great response letter. I don't think it's right for anyone to try to hijack Terri's right to life by smearing other groups who support her...love him or hate him, Randall Terry helped Terri, and I resent the implication that if one doesbn't support Randall Terry, then Terri Schiavo should somehow be put to death/held hostage out of a petty sense of tit-for-tat. We are talking about a woman's LIFE here...not politics or religious affiliation...me thinks the author is simply trying the old divide and conquer rountine.

Also I have a request...does anyone have the transcript or taped broadcast of the TigerClub discussion with Diane Coleman of Not Dead Yet and Felos?

I would very much like to review the contents of the radio show, if possible. Diane's comments were excellent and were transcribed here, but I am curious about some of Felos' comments.

[msmagoo]

I just want to post Pat Anderson's response to Miner's 'article' from the inthesetimes.com site (*way to go, PAT!*)

"In the GUISE of opposition to euthanasia"?? I assure you, the Schindler family and I are united in our oppostion to Terri's euthanasia. We all believe the selective killing of disabled people such as Terri is nothing less than euthanasia, and there is no "guise" to it. A coalition of more than a dozen disability rights groups agrees with us, too.

The use of the word "guise" in this article is offensive and insulting. A better use of the word might be "in the guise of objective reporting, Ms Miner showed up for work."

Pat Anderson
Schindler family attorney

[nicmarlo]

That is a very good article....

[pc93]

http://forums.sptimes.com/Forums/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=006697&p=13

[pc93]

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/Schindler%20Letter%20to%20Schiavo.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/Depo%20MS%20092799%20-%
20Guardianship.pdf

If someone can host these I would be grateful. As I'm not sure what my bandwidth is and would like to be exclusively for the Life Ribbon Campaign.

[pc93]

Nuther response:

How about renting a billboard???!!!
Up here they used to have messages from God on the billboards.
God could say; thou shalt not kill by hydration and
starvation;-)))))))))))))
Wish I'd thought of this when the man wouldn't rent the plane to us to fly
a banner for Terri behind . . .
How about that?

[Krodg]

Can't you post the docs for the rest of us?

[Ohioan from Florida]

I'm getting an invalid type of error on the guardianship one, but the Schindler letter to Michael shows that the Schindlers had absolutely no money motive.They are distressed about Terri's condition back in 93 and Michael kept the medical and neurological info away from them. Mr. Schindler tries so hard to get through to Michael. He is earnestly trying to get Michael to communicate with them. Had Michael not been such a pompous @ss, this case would never have gotten to this point. Michael is a number one jerk in my book!

[pc93]

You have to put the whole line. It didn't make a link for some reason. Someone help.