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A Quiet Rage:On Slaughter, Bad Americans, and Vile Iraqis.
American Digest ^ | November 23, 2003 | Gerard Van der leun

Posted on 11/23/2003 6:48:31 PM PST by vanderleun

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1 posted on 11/23/2003 6:48:32 PM PST by vanderleun
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To: vanderleun; SLB; Fred Mertz; Cannoneer No. 4; Ranger; rangerX; tet68
"To watch our troops killed day by day fills me, day by day, with a growing rage both at our enemies and at our policies that offer these men and women up for slaughter without a full committment from our government and ourselves."

I second that emotion!!!

2 posted on 11/23/2003 6:55:50 PM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: vanderleun

For now, were I to take the time to pen a short treatise in the Mailer vein, mine would be titled, “Why Are We Not Killing More of Our Enemies Wholesale?”

It appears the leaders of our country, from the President on down, are in denial. They are in denial about WHO the enemy is. Sad.

3 posted on 11/23/2003 6:57:55 PM PST by zchip
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To: vanderleun
Doctor Poohbah sez: It's a cultural zeitgeist virus that's going 'round. Take two emails from "Any Soldier in Iraq," limit your intake of liberal news and commentary, and call me in the morning.
4 posted on 11/23/2003 7:00:45 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: vanderleun
" It would seem that, absent another terrible attack on the United States itself, we have yet to learn this lesson."

so true.

5 posted on 11/23/2003 7:03:58 PM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: Poohbah
good advice poohbah
6 posted on 11/23/2003 7:07:55 PM PST by mylife
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To: vanderleun
Bump. Good article.
7 posted on 11/23/2003 7:07:59 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: vanderleun
About a dozen swarming teenagers pulled the soldiers out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said.

I am pissed about two things:

1. Where the heck was the chain of command? Security? SOP's for force protection? Buddy teams? Overwatch? Were these guys out for a Sunday drive in town without any kind of plan? If so - their leadership has failed them.

2. When you come up to a group of Iraqi teenagers throwing concrete blocks at unconscious soldiers and looting their vehicle (which probably has sensitive communication equipment) ----- YOU F*CKEN SHOOT THEM.

8 posted on 11/23/2003 7:08:36 PM PST by 2banana
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To: Poohbah
Listening to those spineless excuses for "Candidates" fielded by the abominable crawling thing that the once noble Democratic Party has become fills me with a quiet rage as well. In a very real sense, they are one of the homefront's reasons that our troops continue to die. Their carping and despicable pursuit of the President and their own cheap ambitions embolden our enemies and encourage the slow war of attrition.

Subversion bump.
9 posted on 11/23/2003 7:09:55 PM PST by tet68
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To: vanderleun
bttt
10 posted on 11/23/2003 7:14:30 PM PST by lainde
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To: vanderleun
Listening to those spineless excuses for "Candidates" fielded by the abominable crawling thing that the once noble Democratic Party has become fills me with a quiet rage as well. In a very real sense, they are one of the homefront's reasons that our troops continue to die. Their carping and despicable pursuit of the President and their own cheap ambitions embolden our enemies and encourage the slow war of attrition.

During Nam, the Russian KGB spent millions funding the anti-war protestors for the Vietnamese. Today, my guess is it's happening again through the Democrat party and A.N.S.W.E.R., only this time it's funded by the Arab nations.
We all know Clinton sold out missile technology to the Communists in China to win an election, so we also know national security is not their goal. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

11 posted on 11/23/2003 7:17:32 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: vanderleun
A snide, weak and oozing voice; a voice that presumes to speak for ‘educated Iraq.’ In all likelihood it does not speak for all, but it is certain that it speaks for more than a few.

I'll bet a sixpack that the writer of this blog is actually a western journalist sitting in a Baghdad hotel.

12 posted on 11/23/2003 7:24:42 PM PST by thedugal (Someone ping me when the shootin' starts...)
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To: vanderleun
You have to be careful in your choice of things that feed your rage.

We really can't avoid the things that feed our rage right now, unless we choose some sort of self-imposed oblivion. But how much of that rage is caused by our need for restraint? We know what bloody awful thing we want to do in revenge for these atrocities, but we dare not do it -- not because we become like them, but because we would be less like us. Because when the rage is spent, we have to live with ourselves, and answer our own inner voices.

We are forced to look at this awful evil, but we must look at it, and never, never forget its face.

13 posted on 11/23/2003 7:36:26 PM PST by browardchad
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To: vanderleun
BFL to send to the cowardly rats.
14 posted on 11/23/2003 7:42:47 PM PST by dts32041 (Is it time to practice decimation with our representatives?)
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To: vanderleun
Let's face it: Will the Iraqis as a whole ever love us? I doubt it! Today it's the Sunnis giving us trouble, but before you know it, when Saddam's head is displayed on a platter, some of those crazy Shiites will come out of the closet and formally demand an Islamic theocracy. Saddam or no Saddam, these people grew up in a culture that deeply mistrusts the West, not just for what it does, but for what it fundamentally represents.

Bush sold this war as being fundamental to our national security, which most would still say it was. . . unfortunately he's now making it sound as if doing the Iraqis a favor was the main purpose all along, and however important that is to keep control of the situation there, it won't endear him to a wearying US public.
15 posted on 11/23/2003 8:51:58 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: concerned about politics
Yeah your right!!! and we never landed on the moon and you know that DNA stuff? well thats all a big hoax too because really its one of Dali's paintings of stairs with bits of imaginary colour on them depicting the changing of the seasons.......
16 posted on 11/23/2003 9:10:55 PM PST by Lancasta_uniboi
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To: vanderleun
"I am beginning to look at these suitors for the hand of the nation and see them not as noble Democrats standing in loyal opposition, but as a pack of two-bit political whores willing to assume any position, and mouth any platitude that will entice the feeble-minded and the fearful among us to fork over a vote for a quick and dirty roll in the Iowa Hay."

Tick...tick...tick... I think we should wipe out the Bath'ists, the Sunnis the Shiites, whoever is left can run Bagdad and Iraq. We are not making the example out of Iraq that should be made.

All democrat politicians should be shipped off to Iran, then we should attack Iran. It would be a huge political mistake for the Republican Party not to point out the similarities between the demoncrats and muslim terrorists during the coming campaign.

Both are cut from the same cloth. The only difference being, democrats are cut from left over cloth, and are deserving of far less respect.

The rage is building against these sorry excuses. Their treason and sedition while less violent on the surface, is just as destructive as Al Queda. The Patriot Act should be used to ditch them in a country better suited to them, or ship them to Guantanemo to be with their brothers.

17 posted on 11/23/2003 10:00:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: browardchad
F*ck that. Germany was CRUSHED. Japan was nuked. These people are savages completly unlike the Japanese and Germans, who had sick, but developed cultures. I have been saying for months we need much, much, more death and destruction to have a chance at fixing things. We need to bring it on and create total fear before we get any where with "democritization". It's not working and it won't work.
18 posted on 11/23/2003 10:38:57 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: vanderleun
About a dozen swarming teenagers pulled the soldiers out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said.

This is right out of Mogodishu and Blackhawk down. Everyone should recognize it. It's the Al Qaeda final challange. They think this will make us cut and run, but they're going to be sorely disappointed, that is, if there's enough of them left to BE disappointed.

Remember that both Saddam and Bin Laden constantly mentioned Somalia and Blackhawk Down. Saddam even had his people watch the movie.

19 posted on 11/23/2003 10:52:13 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: vanderleun
Although my initial gut reaction is to "nuke 'em all", common sense and maybe a twinge of common decency steps in.

If news reports can be believed, it is a small percentage of Iraqis who hate us. And this small percentage, combined with the foreign terrorists are wreaking havoc on our troops. Annihilating a whole village to ensure that we killed the terrorists could easily turn the entire Iraqi population against us (not to mention the condemnation of the international community).

I have no problem with the unintended collateral damage (regretable, but a fact of war). I do have a problem with the assertions of some posters that we should line up 10 Iraqi's for every US soldier killed, and execute them in order to instill fear. That was a Nazi tactic. It may have been effective, but the civilized world rightly condemned it.

IMHO, these two soldiers were in hostile territory without support. FOX news glossed over the lack of immediate support, and never mentioned the time lapse between the initial attack and the appearance of more troops. Had these two soldiers had the proper support, the teenagers who assaulted and murdered them would have been blasted to perdition.

I wonder how many more parents will have to grieve the loss of their sons before the people in command over there treat every soldier's position as potentially hostile and travel in armed convoys to avoid the needless deaths of our soldiers.

20 posted on 11/23/2003 11:30:46 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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