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To: yonif
Well, I am confident that even though he drives illegally, without a license, this false documented criminal, surely buys automobile insurance against the event that some American boob might involve him in an accident.

This is the classic problem, however, who would otherwise pick these crops? The answer is that we must FIRST control the border and only then, allow the NEXT half million guest workers who follow our administrative requirements to apply. Any "consideration" to the law breakers already here means that another six million will come north so as to qualify for the NEXT amnesty. Remember, with fake documents, Yankee pensions, benefits, and cash can be obtained and, even, mailed back to home in Mexico.

5 posted on 11/23/2003 2:35:08 PM PST by Tacis
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To: Tacis
Remember, these is NO SUCH THING as a job that people won't do. However, there are jobs that cannot attract workers AT THE WAGES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED. If these farmers were willing to pay an attractive wage there would be no problem in getting people to do the work. Instead, they offer a third world wage, and then get third world people to do the job. Then, when those workers cannot afford insurance, or medical care, or education or housing or food, they go on the public dole at taxpayer expense. This has to end soon, or there will be an extreme reaction by the majority population of this country. I'm not talking protests, I'm talking civil war.

No, I don't want to see civil war in this country, I want to see rule of law prevail. As of now our immigration laws are being completely ignored by our government, our industries and by the illegals themselves. How long before Joe Sixpack decides to ignore the rest of our laws? How long before the average citizen decides to give up on obeying the laws, and subscribes to the concept of "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"? We are teetering on the edge of total catastrophe, and the results will NOT be pretty.
6 posted on 11/23/2003 2:43:03 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Tacis
If we ended all the BS welfare laws, including section eight and all those single welfare mommies were calling their "baby daddies" to say that Jr. was hungry and where was the food then perhaps we would find more native born people suddenly willing to work. Food is a great motivator.
7 posted on 11/23/2003 2:43:36 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Tacis
This is the classic problem, however, who would otherwise pick these crops?

Anyone. The farmers would just have to bid the wage to something that legitimate citizens would work for.

And that would not entail any significant rise in the cost of produce. The actual labor cost of a head of lettuce has been estimated at around 15 cents. The wage rate could be doubled and Mrs. Soccer Mommy in St. Louis would barely notice the increase. For that matter, there are plently of labor saving machinery designs for high value agriculture which are not implemented because the cost of illegal labor simply makes it not economical. Instead of mechanization, agriculture is instead going to Mexicanization.

The fact that illegals are basically given carte blanche to scurry across the American landscape in search of temporary labor has to do with the political calculation that if we don't allow that to happen, a social catastrophe will occur in Mexico (that's true). The fact that the policy serves the needs of Mexico's despicable ruling class at the expense of the citizens of the United States merely shows the contempt in which we are held by our leaders.

Illegal immigration is not inevitable, it's a function of government policy. Were it to stop, there would be a net positive effect on the economy of the United States, not a net negative as is routinely asserted.

9 posted on 11/23/2003 2:50:25 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Tacis
I can think of lots of people who would pick grapes for $600.00 per week. They'd be the same ones who picked before the Mexicans invaded.
27 posted on 11/23/2003 8:47:25 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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