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Three U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq (Pummeled them with Concrete Rocks!)
Yahoo ^ | 11/23/03

Posted on 11/23/2003 1:27:33 PM PST by areafiftyone

MOSUL, Iraq - Iraqi teenagers dragged the bloody bodies of two American soldiers from a wrecked vehicle and pummeled them with concrete blocks Sunday, witnesses said, describing a burst of savagery in a city once safe for Americans. Another soldier was killed by a bomb and a U.S.-allied police chief was assassinated.

The U.S.-led coalition also said it grounded commercial flights after the military confirmed that a missile struck a DHL cargo plane that landed Saturday at Baghdad International Airport with its wing aflame.

Nevertheless, American officers insisted they were making progress in bringing stability to Iraq (news - web sites), and the U.S.-appointed Governing Council named an ambassador to Washington — an Iraqi-American woman who spent the last decade lobbying U.S. lawmakers to promote democracy in her homeland.

Witnesses to the Mosul attack said gunmen shot two soldiers driving through the city center, sending their vehicle crashing into a wall. The 101st Airborne Division said the soldiers were driving to another garrison.

About a dozen swarming teenagers dragged the soldiers' bodies out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said.

"They lifted a block and hit them with it on the face," Younis Mahmoud, 19, said.

Another teenager, Bahaa Jassim, said some looted the vehicle of weapons, CDs and a backpack.

"They remained there for over an hour without the Americans knowing anything about it," he said. "I ... went and told other troops."

Television video showed the soldiers' bodies splayed on the ground as U.S. troops secured the area. One victim's foot appeared to have been severed.

The frenzy recalled the October 1993 scene in Somalia, when locals dragged the bodies of Marines killed in fighting with warlords through the streets.

In Baqouba, just north of Baghdad, insurgents detonated a roadside bomb as a 4th Infantry Division convoy passed, killing one soldier and wounding two others, the military said.

In Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt confirmed the Mosul deaths but refused to provide details.

"We're not going to get ghoulish about it," he said.

The savagery of the attack was unusual for Mosul, once touted as a success story in sharp contrast to the anti-American violence seen in Sunni Muslim areas north and west of Baghdad.

In recent weeks, however, attacks against U.S. troops have increased in Mosul, raising concerns the insurgency is spreading.

Simultaneously, attacks have accelerated against Iraqis considered to be supporting Americans — such as policemen and politicians working for the interim Iraqi administration.

On Sunday, gunmen killed the Iraqi police chief of Latifiyah, 20 miles south of Baghdad, and his bodyguard and driver, American and Iraqi officials said. No further details were released.

The assassination occurred one day after suicide bombers struck two police stations northeast of Baghdad within 30 minutes, killing at least 14 people. Gunmen on Saturday also killed an Iraqi police colonel protecting oil installations in Mosul.

Elsewhere, Iraqi police said six U.S. Apache helicopter gunships blasted marshland after insurgents fired four rocket-propelled grenades at the American military garrison at the city's northern end. One Iraqi passer-by was killed in the air attack, police said.

In Kirkuk, 150 miles north of Baghdad, a bomb exploded at an oil compound, injuring three American civilian contractors from the U.S. firm Kellogg Brown & Root. The three suffered facial cuts from flying glass, U.S. Lt. Col. Matt Croke said.

KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, also has a significant presence at Baghdad's Palestine Hotel, which was rocketed by insurgents Friday, wounding one civilian.

"We all know that Americans are being threatened," Croke said.

Kimmitt told reporters in Baghdad that witnesses saw two surface-to-air missiles fired Saturday at a cargo plane operated by the Belgium-based package service DHL as it left for Bahrain.

The plane was the first civilian airliner hit by insurgents, who have shot down several military helicopters with shoulder-fired rockets.

DHL and Royal Jordanian, the only commercial passenger airline flying into Baghdad, immediately suspended flights on orders of the coalition authority.

Despite the ongoing violence, U.S. officials insisted the occupation was going well.

"If you look at the accomplishments of the coalition since March of this year, it has been enormous," Marine Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in Tikrit.

Pace is touring Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq.

Also Sunday, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said veteran Washington lobbyist Rend Rahim Francke was appointed Iraq's ambassador to the United States. Francke, an Iraq native who has spent most of her life abroad, led the Iraq Foundation, a Washington-based pro-democracy group, and has helped plan Iraq's transition from Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s rule.

The appointment will renew the diplomatic ties between Washington and Baghdad severed in 1990 when Saddam invaded Kuwait.


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To: Steve-M-46
What is more barbaric is the killing of non-combatants as they have chosen not to put their lives at risk.

And what is most barbaric of all is the deliberate killing of non-combatants, like we saw on 9-11.

101 posted on 11/23/2003 2:51:30 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: JamesA
I want to go after the Political correct or anyone who slanders our Military.

The problem is war changed after WWII.

We carpet bombed the Germans and nuked the Japs. Berlin was left with 12y/o's to defend it...

We need to KILL a generation of males 13-23y/o's

102 posted on 11/23/2003 2:53:36 PM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: areafiftyone
No, its the same incident..
103 posted on 11/23/2003 2:54:14 PM PST by Jalapeno
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To: Reagan is King
Does it seem like Drudge is becoming the Dan Rather of the Iraq war? Rather earned his fame during Vietnam by pumping the American public with a one-sided (negative) image of that war. Drudge seems to be doing that this time.
104 posted on 11/23/2003 2:54:44 PM PST by twntaipan (Liberalism: The Rot on the Dung Heap of Humanity)
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To: Steve-M-46
Killing - be either with a modern weapon or using whatever means at disposal (a rock) - is still barbaric.

Both sides are barbaric. What is more barbaric is the killing of non-combatants as they have chosen not to put their lives at risk.

I am sure there will be a video released sometimes which will turn the public's opinion against the current government - same as it was in Ethiopia...

I don't understand your post at all. How exactly have we been barbaric? And teenagers who pummel bodies of U.S. soldiers with concrete blocks would hardly be defined as "non-combatants". They "chose to put their lives at risk" when they chose to desecrate the remains of American servicemen.

Are you a Pali supporter, per chance?

105 posted on 11/23/2003 2:55:16 PM PST by streetpreacher
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To: Travis McGee
Travis, for Christ's sakes-you are an ex-military man...may I ask you what kind of POS orders of the day exist that allow soldiers to drive around hostile territory as if in the States? Are the brass ignoring the fact we are fighting a guerilla war on the ground and not issuing such orders of the day that would protect our troops for political reasons?

"OK, guys, while off duty have fun, be safe"? What the f*ck is going on here?

106 posted on 11/23/2003 2:56:02 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: carpio
That's what Neville Chamberlain said about England.
So those around them fell & their borders weren't so
easy to defend by themselves. If the Yanks hadn't gone
over there until it was over over there, England would
be under the boot heel.
107 posted on 11/23/2003 2:58:05 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: JamesA
Reference #37


I know your feelings all too well. I ran the gauntlet of the smelly ones when they morphed from Vietnam war protesters to Anti-Nuke protestors during the Reagan Administration. Same stuff, spitting, calling names,etc.

You and your son are the glue that holds this country together, even though the smelly ones try to tear it apart. Its harder to send your kids off to fight than it is to fight a war yourself, however. I know that feeling too.

Here's to your son. I pray that he is ok, and will finish his tour fine, just like you did a generation before he did. Seems like he comes from good stock.
108 posted on 11/23/2003 2:59:11 PM PST by judicial meanz (Al Qaeda ...feared by democratic girlymen and camels alike)
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To: Destro
Yes, I think someone has some answering to do.
109 posted on 11/23/2003 3:01:39 PM PST by Jalapeno
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To: areafiftyone
Why were these soldiers patrolling by themselves without backup and in a friggin SUV...

This is a battleground and they should have been riding with weapons drawn, in a convoy of at least two vehicles, one heavy, one light and no surprises.

WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU BRASS THINKING ABOUT? Ditch the politically correct nationbuilding stuff right now and get down to the business of actually winning a war. This is a war.

110 posted on 11/23/2003 3:02:32 PM PST by OpusatFR (You want to see terror? Mess with my kids and find out. I'm primitive at best. A Mother at worst)
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To: JamesA
James,

He is doing what his Dad did before him. I understand your fears, the same your parents had for you.

Take care.
111 posted on 11/23/2003 3:02:43 PM PST by sargunner
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To: twntaipan
>>Does it seem like Drudge is becoming the Dan Rather of the Iraq war? Rather earned his fame during Vietnam by pumping the American public with a one-sided (negative) image of that war. Drudge seems to be doing that this time.


Oh thank You!
Please understand that while this is absolutely horrid, it could have easily taken place in Downtown Detroit.

I talk with Iraqis in our area of the US (known here as "Little Arabia" - Southwestern MI). The families of the immigrants here are so happy for the soldiers that are there. Many of them are hoping to go home someday but realize that until the Saddam loyalists and idiots from other countries are stopped, they cannot. Only our soldiers can do this. The Iraqis understand more than you know.
112 posted on 11/23/2003 3:03:26 PM PST by netmilsmom (Proudly, A painful wart on the big toe of progress--No gay marriage!)
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To: areafiftyone
I'll say it again. That POS country isn't worth the death of one American.....How many more?

I say put all the Senators kids, every single one over 18 on the front line into that POS country, include all the congressman's kids, all the governors kids, mayors etc.....Let them lead by example. Bush's daughters ought to get out of their BMWs and limos and go serve. I'd love to know how many of the elite's kids have opted to serve.

It's the right thing to do!

113 posted on 11/23/2003 3:05:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: OpusatFR
I'm no expert, but these may not have been rank-and-file soldiers. And the Iraqis may have known that.
114 posted on 11/23/2003 3:06:11 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: Dog
As if the body in that pic is recognizable...

"This is what got my attention....nice thing to post with military families posting on this thread.."

I agree Dog, some media folks are so hell bent on sensationalism.
115 posted on 11/23/2003 3:06:37 PM PST by Gucho
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To: cgk
"In this image taken from video" American diplomats, speaking the local language, show American willingness to negotiate with the cowardly assholes who murdered the defenseless American soldiers.


116 posted on 11/23/2003 3:10:37 PM PST by geedee (A liberal flies the flag when protesting against their country, then hides it when she's at war.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
You want to kill the kid who told our troops what happened to their buddies too?
117 posted on 11/23/2003 3:11:21 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I'd love to know how many of the elite's kids have opted to serve.

Very few. Maybe even one!

118 posted on 11/23/2003 3:11:55 PM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Steve-M-46
In times of war you have body bags of course. The images will certainly open the eyes of most people who think this war is a success. People will start questioning what really is happening there.

Three soldiers died in the car wreck, 2 had their throats slid and one died due to an explosion

Welcome to FR,you condescending, arrogant, mean spirited troll. Glad you could stop by and use the deaths of US soldiers as an excuse to make a political point and needle us.

There are plenty of veterans here on this board, and we know all too well the wages of war. No need to tell us the facts. We know then well. Now go jump off a cliff with the rest of the koolaid drinkers.

119 posted on 11/23/2003 3:12:12 PM PST by judicial meanz (Al Qaeda ...feared by democratic girlymen and camels alike)
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To: cgk
What do you expect from a "compassionate conservative" administration? We need a ruthless SOB conservative.

Arabs only respect strength. It's incredible that our civilian and military command cannot grasp this elementary principle. Oblivious to reality, our rules of engagement are a sick joke.

Generals Sanchez/Abiziad need to be replaced or resign.

120 posted on 11/23/2003 3:12:19 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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