Emergency Action Alert--Stop biggest expansion of govt. (Medicare drug plan) since LBJ

Wall Street Journal/Stephen Moore | November 20, 2003 | Wall Street Journal/Stephen Moore

[nonliberal]

It looks as if the bill will be passed. It is time for conservatives to explore alternatives to the Republican Party.

[jgrubbs]

[4CJ]

Let us try to get the logic of this one straight: Representatives are supposed to feel better about voting for this bill because it acknowledges they're passing the buck to a future Congress?

Since when has that idea ever stopped a congresscritter? Kill the bill. It's SOCIALISM - if backed by Dims, X42, Hitlery, W, or anyone else - it's socialism either way.

[sruleoflaw]

Have you read the legislation?

It seems rotten from everything I've seen and read.

--The largest expansion of the federal government in 40 years.

--Adding an estimated $2 trillion in unfunded liabilities to the $21 trillion of Social Security and Medicare.

--An estimated 33 percent of the (75 percent of seniors who now have privately-funded drug coverage) are expected, according to the Congressional Budget Office, to lose their superior coverage.

AGAIN, I ask, Have you read the legislation? I could go on and on. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING LEGISLATION.

[bonesmccoy]

Are you reading the legislation?

Apparently not... you've managed to leave out the most juicy nugget that is causing Ted Kennedy heartburn... the massive reform of the lack of competition in Medi-Care healthcare delivery processes.

It is totally illogical to have this board having a kah-nip-shun over this legislation... it is CLEARLY and WITHOUT A DOUBT... the MOST important change to bring competition back to the healthcare arena.

HILLARY CLINTON MUST BE HAVING A COW TONIGHT!

JOIN THE ANTI-CLINTON CROWD and PASS H.R. 1 TONIGHT!

[cartoonistx]

[Axenolith]

but the fact is that America wants to keep medicare.

What America "wants" and what's good for it are often, particularly today, two entirely different things. Ostensibly, politicians should be taking this into consideration when "leading" us. If strict constitutionality were followed, it wouldn't be much of a problem, but now it's Katie bar the door for bread and circus'...

[Axenolith]

The bill is well-crafted and encourages physicians and hospitals to compete for your healthcare dollars

Oh. WHEW! I thought they were going to spend a lot of taxpayer money on it, glad you cleared that point up... <\Sarcasm>...

[bonesmccoy]

IT IS NOT SOCIALISM... you guys don't even know what the heck you're talking about...

Hillary Clinton already created a socialized healthcare system in our nation.

This bill REVERSES her manipulations created from 1994 to 1996.

BACK THE BILL!

[bonesmccoy]

Sir, please post your wife's opinion on the Fee-For-Service reimbursement networking MANDATED by this bill.

Why is she opposed to paying providers and hospitals when a service is provided (versus payment when NO service is provided today)?

[bonesmccoy]

Sir,
Right now YOUR MONEY is being pooled and sent to HMO's and Hospitals ... nearly 99.5% of the funds NEVER reach the primary site of care in this county.

Why do you think it is appropriate for gov't tax dollars to be sent to Bermuda?

The only idiots arguing against this bill are the lame-o's who PERMITTED the funds to be sent to Bermuda to begin with (TED KENNEDY, BARB BOXER, and HILLARY CLINTON).

[hedgetrimmer]

A billion dollars is in the budget for illegal aliens to get medicare funds.

[Jackie222]

ping......

[4CJ]

This bill REVERSES her manipulations created from 1994 to 1996.

The only way that socialist programs can be reversed is to legislate them out of existance. The entire program.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Bumperooni.

[B4Ranch]

Reagen took the Soviet Union economy down with just a few smart moves, Bush is doing the same to us. $15 billion for Africa, $400 billion for this Medicare prescription drug bill all the while moaning that his budget cannot properly fund the VA.

I don't know if we are going to see a revival of common sense, an armed revolution or an admittion of defeat as America drops off the financial cliff but I do know we will be in serious trouble shortly.

As soon as our kids realize what their parents and the Republican Party has done to them, be prepared for a butt whipping like none of us has ever seen before.

[bonesmccoy]

won't happen!

Medicare, like Social security, need to go away... but it won't happen.

So, the best thing to do is to limit the scope and build barriers to growth...so that when the democrats get elected, they can't create more communist constructs.

[4CJ]

So, the best thing to do is to limit the scope and build barriers to growth

I would agree on that point, but how does this bill, all underestimated 400Billion limit the scope of Medicare?

[MrFreedom]

Its over for The Republican Party

[B4Ranch]

(snip)"Republicans are offering the certainty of trillions in new entitlements in return for the mere promise of future reform, and that's too expensive a gamble for principled conservatives to support."

Bush is the first Republican President since Dwight Eisenhower to enjoy outright majorities in the House and Senate. If he can't get a Bill written the way he wants it with both majorities the future is dim. He hasn't done squat about reversing any of the Executive Orders issued by Clinton. His administration reeks of Clinton personel. He can't seem to get his selected judges to the courtroom bench.

(snip) This plan could lead to billions of dollars in liabilities to be erased from the balance sheets of Fortune 500 companies and then shifted onto the books of Uncle Sam.

(snip)

For some people, personal integrity and ethics go together like bread and butter or children and toys. When we think of one the other always comes into the picture.

I wish I had studied him more before I voted because now I regret it. Voting for him was a mistake that I'll not make again.

His respect for veteran soldiers certainly isn't reflected in his budget. We had to scream and holler to get wounded soldiers to not be billed for their hospital meals. The VA needs the $15 billion he gave to Africa!

Mr. Bush had promised the American people to rein in government growth, federal discretionary spending. He said he would support the 2nd Amendment. I sure haven't seen any sign of these yet.

He had promised not to raid the $175 billion surplus in the nation’s pension trust fund except in times of war, recession or a national emergency. Now he has all three going and our trade deficit with China continues to reach peaks that Republican Senators and Congressmen promised us would never happen.

He pledged that he would provide no bailouts for Latin American nations.

Isn't leaving our Southern border open 24/7 a bailout for Mexico? You're damn right it is!

Then he okayed a $30 billion 'rescue loan' for Brazil, presumably because the collapse of Brazil's economy would have caused serious problems for Wall Street and his personal friends . I'll bet this turns into a loan that will be written off by Washington leaving it for us to pay with interest.

Oh Yeah, He's a great guy but a lousy President.