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To: T. Jefferson
I'm not a terrorist or involved in money laundering fraud.

Good for you!

Those are the specific requirements. Do you have something to hide?

Those "specific requirements" are aimed at US CITIZENS, not illegals. Read the Patriot Act. It directs these powers at CITIZENS. And, no, I have nothing to hide, but that doesn't mean that the Fed can trample on my 4th Amendment rights. You do remember the Constitution, don't you? Perhaps you'd feel safer living in an environment like 1938 Germany? Your papers please.........

As far as the borders go: Read title IV, subtitle A, sections 401-417 of the bill.

Lovely words, but words are meaningless unless there is action to back them up. Our borders are still wide open. Just last week two new border crossing tunnels were discovered near Calexico, CA and another near Del Rio, TX. How many more exist and are being used to bring in weapons and or terrorists? Our ports? Same thing. Wide open. Care to hazard a guess as to how many containers enter our ports every single day unchecked? How about just from the middle east?

Oh and this comment: List for us all the successful attacks on US soil since this office was created.

Yeah, that's a great rationale. We've not been attacked on our soil since 9/11, so therefore it won't happen again. Yeah, I really feel safe now. These folks are hell bent on getting nukes. Unless we seriously make efforts to seal up the borders and ports that bright flash you see will not be somebody taking your picture. After the nuclear gun is fired it's too late.

The solution is really pretty simple. To hell with political correctness. Close the borders now. Round up every illegal and deport them. Track every foreign student closely, especially those from suspected terrorist nations. Suspend foreign aid to any nation that chooses to side with terrorists, i.e., Syria, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, et al. The Bakka Valley should be "cleansed".

You see, the Patriot Act isn't aimed at illegals or foreigners. It's aimed at citizens. Name for me each US citizen that was part of the 19 that flew those planes into the WTC, the Pentagon, and the field in PA. How about the WTC bombing in '93?

Yeah, the Patriot Act. Catchy name. Too bad it's aimed at the wrong people. Even worse are people who refuse to accept what it really is.

191 posted on 11/23/2003 7:35:23 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker
Even worse are people who say that the Patriot Act is something it isn't. Judicial review is required, and these are powers already used against organized crime and other racketeers. Now they are used against people who wish to kill millions of us.

Name one innocent citizen who has been deprived of his rights by the Patriot Act. This bill makes sense at this point in time, they set it up to expire so that we can revisit the issue in 2005.
193 posted on 11/23/2003 8:01:36 AM PST by RobFromGa (The Bush Recovery Is In Full Swing....)
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To: Thermalseeker
Off your meds again I see.
194 posted on 11/23/2003 8:01:58 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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