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'B.C.' cartoon seen as slur of Islam
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/22/03 | worldnetdaily.com

Posted on 11/22/2003 12:26:43 AM PST by ovrtaxt

'B.C.' cartoon seen as slur of Islam

Muslims allege veteran artist Hart made cryptic attack


Posted: November 22, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

The Council on American-Islamic Relations once again is demanding an apology for an alleged slur of Muslims, this time asserting a veteran cartoonist has cryptically defamed Islam.

The Washington, D.C.-based group sent out a dispatch to its e-mail list after a "B.C." cartoon last week by Johnny Hart was publicly questioned on a Washington Post Web chat page.

The cartoon shows a caveman entering an outhouse at night, and then saying, from inside, "Is it just me, or does it stink in here?"


The Post reader said the cartoon only made sense metaphorically, noting the strip contained a total of six crescent moons, and wondered if it might be a cryptic slur on Muslims.

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR's spokesman, is sure it's a defamation of Islam.

"I think the reason there might not have been initial complaints is that it's so cryptic," he told the Post. "If you know who the cartoonist is, what he's done in the past, then it becomes clear. Otherwise, it's just an unfunny joke."

CAIR also is demanding an apology from radio counselor Dr. Laura Schlessinger for an alleged "anti-Muslim tirade" on her program this week.

Hart, 73, is known to be a devout Christian who often has communicated religious themes in his strip.

Along with the moons, CAIR's e-mail noted that Hart drew a sound effect – "SLAM" – between two frames to accompany the closing of the outhouse door. The SLAM, which was rendered vertically in the shaped of an I, could be viewed as "Islam," CAIR said.

The group also noted the cartoon appeared on the 15th day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Hart and Creators Syndicate insist, however, the cartoon is just a simple joke that is being misunderstood.

"My goodness. That's incredible," Hart told the Post after hearing of CAIR's claims. "That's unbelievable!"

The cartoonist explained it as a silly bathroom joke. The SLAM simply depicted the caveman walking into the outhouse and the moons indicated it was nighttime. Also outhouses often are shown with crescent moons.

"This comic was in no way intended to be a message against Islam – subliminal or otherwise," he told the Post. "It would be contradictory to my own faith as a Christian to insult other people's beliefs. If you should have any further silly notions about malicious intent from this quarter, you can save yourself a phone call."

Several years ago, Hart drew protest from Jewish groups for an Easter Sunday strip that showed the candles of a Jewish menorah flickering out one by one alongside one of Jesus' last utterances. It culminated with the menorah turning into a cross and the words "It is finished." Hart insisted the cartoon was meant to honor both Judaism and Christianity.

The Post interviewed a number of analysts who believed Hart's outhouse strip was an intentional defamation of Islam.

Marshall Blonsky, professor of semiotics at the New School in New York, said for one thing, people don't slam outhouse doors.

An expert in the interpretation of signs and symbols, Blonsky said he didn't get the joke, and the cartoon makes sense only in light of the religious interpretation.

The paper also interviewed six leading cartoonists, who all admire Hart. Five of them thought the religious interpretation probably was right, including Berkeley Breathed, creator of "Bloom County" and "Opus," and Jef Mallett, creator of the nationally syndicated cartoon "Frazz."

Only Doonesbury's Garry Trudeau sided with Hart.

"We cartoonists are simple folk. We don't write on that cryptic a level," he told the Post. "Leave Johnny alone."

Blonsky opined that when it comes to artistic criticism, it is a mistake to give much weight at all to the artist's stated intention.

All that matters, he said, is the way people interpret it. Therefore, even if Hart intended no offense, the offense is there.

As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR and another Muslim group demanded an apology last year from Pulitzer-prize winning political cartoonist Doug Marlette for his depiction of a Middle Eastern-looking man behind the steering wheel of a nuclear-bomb laden truck under the headline, "What would Muhammad drive?"

The cartoon shows a Ryder rental truck like the one used by convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

Marlette told WorldNetDaily he would not apologize, though he had received thousands of e-mails from angry Muslims, with some threats of death and mutilation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bc; cair; cartoons; islam; johnnyhart
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To: hellinahandcart
"What would Marshall di Manhattan know about outhouses?"

Obviously, not a damn thing.

This is so ridiculous.

21 posted on 11/22/2003 2:57:01 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: hellinahandcart
"What would Marshall di Manhattan know about outhouses?"

Oh......of course; that's easy.

He teaches in one.

22 posted on 11/22/2003 2:57:10 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
I need a larger copy!

Me too. I don't want all the folks who are about to get this by email to have to strain their eyes! LOL

23 posted on 11/22/2003 3:08:05 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
This was posted yesterday with larger copies I am looking for a link now.
24 posted on 11/22/2003 3:09:44 AM PST by Rightly Biased ( <><)
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To: hellinahandcart; RIGHT IN SEATTLE
Look here for a larger copy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026408/posts
25 posted on 11/22/2003 3:12:35 AM PST by Rightly Biased ( <><)
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To: Rightly Biased
Sorry post #13 in that thread for the toon
26 posted on 11/22/2003 3:13:49 AM PST by Rightly Biased ( <><)
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To: ovrtaxt; All
Let me get this straight. I'm over here with the military trying to help the Iraqi's, the majority of which are Muslim (and who BTW the majority of WANT us to be here)obtain freedom that they've never had before and meanwhile Ibrahim Hooper and the so-called Islamic "leaders" in the U.S. are finding their version of skulls and cross bones in ice cubes? Good grief! These people need to concentrate more on cleaning up their own house before they start chasing shadows in someone elses backyard.
27 posted on 11/22/2003 3:25:06 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: hellinahandcart
Actually, many outhouse doors have or did have a strong spring on the door and the doors indeed did slam. The reason, of course, was those in the house wanted to make sure the door remained tightly closed when nobody was using the facility. Outhouse doors, after all, did not typically have a lockset handle to catch and remain shut.

The locking mechanism was usually a hook and eye on the inside so the occupant could retain privacy.

28 posted on 11/22/2003 3:25:32 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: ovrtaxt
All that matters, he said, is the way people interpret it. Therefore, even if Hart intended no offense, the offense is there.

Meaning that if a booger eating moron takes insult at something that you say or do due to his or her own stupidity YOU are reposonsible for that insult? Yeah, right, like those idiots who got the Washington, DC politician fired for using the word "nigardly!" Hell, it should have been the entire school board that was fired for the stupidity and ignorance of the "graduates" of the school system!

As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR and another Muslim group demanded an apology last year from Pulitzer-prize winning political cartoonist Doug Marlette for his depiction of a Middle Eastern-looking man behind the steering wheel of a nuclear-bomb laden truck under the headline, "What would Muhammad drive?"

Gee... Where could he have gotten the idea for a political cartoon depicting a "Middle Eastern-looking man" driving a car bomb? Where did that crap start? Hmmm??? Sure, McVeigh did it, but did he have help from certain ME terrorist groups? More importantly, where did he get the idea? It's not like we haven't been hearing about car bombs since before the Lebanese civil war!

Marlette told WorldNetDaily he would not apologize, though he had received thousands of e-mails from angry Muslims, with some threats of death and mutilation.

"If you don't apologize to us, and publicly admit how nice and peaceful we are, we're going to find you, and chop you into little pieces, before killing you!!!!" Yeah, that would certainly get me to wax on and on about how peaceful you people are...

Mark

29 posted on 11/22/2003 3:29:48 AM PST by MarkL (Chiefs 9-1... #$&!@(*#$$%^&@@#!!!!!!)
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To: MarkL
Another classic example of illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
30 posted on 11/22/2003 3:35:23 AM PST by demkicker
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority; All
Ok first the Chicago Trib refused to run a couple of Mort Walker "Beetle Bailey" strips last year because the P.C. cops at The Trib thought they were sexist. Now Johnny Hart is under fire becasue of someoene's personal "perception" of what he ment in a cartoon. What's next? A boycott of the "Wizard of ID" becasue it offends midget despots? Yeah I can imagine Kim Jong Il reviewing his legal options right now! Papers refusing to run Hagar The Horrible becasue of it's overly violent content and misoginistic treatment of women? Someone needs to explain to these people who obviously have NOTHING better to do that IT'S A COMIC STRIP!! Get over it! LOL! If they want to get huffy about a cartoon that truly offends people and insults people on a regular basis, boycott Dunesbury. Oh wait I forgot, they actually think that one's funny! Never mind.
31 posted on 11/22/2003 3:36:10 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: dagnabbit
If so, I commend Mr. Hart for it - though I might have had BC reaching for koran pages to finish the "paperwork" part of his outhouse visit.

What you said is humorous to me but if I were to analyse your statement to death it would lose it's humor. Cartoon strips are meant to be looked at, chuckle then go on your way. If someone is looking for something sinister they will find it.

32 posted on 11/22/2003 3:38:56 AM PST by Holly_P
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To: Rightly Biased
Thanks. Funny thread too!

All I can say is, if Hart DIDN'T do this on purpose, I want to get to know his subconscious.
33 posted on 11/22/2003 3:43:01 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Marshall Blonsky, professor of semiotics at the New School in New York, said for one thing, people don't slam outhouse doors

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I grew up with an out house complete with crecent cut in the door. It had a system to automaticly drop the lid when the door was opened -- SLAM-- and a spring to pull the door shut --- SLAM. The fraud of a prof knows not of what he speaks.

34 posted on 11/22/2003 3:44:48 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: ovrtaxt
is it me, or do some people have so much time on their hands that they get paranoid????? (hmmm, is that cause or effect?)

35 posted on 11/22/2003 3:49:29 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: hellinahandcart; Lion Den Dan
Well, I've never been in a real outhouse, but I've used a portajon plenty of times on construction sites. Now there's where you can find some real cartooning talent! Also, it's a great source for taglines!

Oh, and the doors slam, they have a spring.

Obviously, this NewYork jackass professor has never worked a day in his life. Typical ignorance of the 'intellectual elite'.
36 posted on 11/22/2003 3:54:37 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I don't think it's papranoia, I think they had better be concerned. Americans are quickly getting sick of Islam.
37 posted on 11/22/2003 3:55:50 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
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To: Lion Den Dan
At least your outhouse had a door! Why we were so poor that... .
38 posted on 11/22/2003 3:57:33 AM PST by tal hajus
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To: ovrtaxt
Johnny Hart is great! I'm a big fan of his, and once again, he's hit the nail on the head about the Islamofacists (if that was his intention), if not, then it's just another funny cartoon.
39 posted on 11/22/2003 4:14:40 AM PST by TAIPAN22001 (hh)
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To: dagnabbit
If so, I commend Mr. Hart for it - though I might have had BC reaching for koran pages to finish the "paperwork" part of his outhouse visit.

Every once in a while, I get ready to post something, and on the way I find one like this that leaves me nothing to say....

Thanks!

40 posted on 11/22/2003 4:14:54 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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