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To: AndyJackson
All that seems clear, is that you are an apparent relic, unaware of how things are done TODAY. When, where and how, are relics of Johnson, Carter and Clinton, those great warriors.

The ROE is now in the hands of those know know best. CINC sets goals and conditions for victory. That is the extent of their wartime policy. It might take another 20 or so years. Were you current, you would know that ROE is no longer only strategic, static, inflexible, or non-conditional.

You are entitled to your opinion, but as I said, I am glad you and types believing as you do no longer command men. It was men, right? Dont answer, there is too much football on for me to keep up this dialog.

233 posted on 11/22/2003 11:45:33 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
BTW to let you know what a relic you are - there are no CINC's anymore. They are Commanders now. The only CINC is the president. This happened about a year ago.

You are clueless about what goes on in DC. Part of the problem is that you are so wrapped up in your 3letter military computer gobbledygook that you don't know what happens here in Washington before the ROE's are put into the computers to get printed out in your op orders. A lot of high level discussion about rules of engagement happen at the NSC involving State, Defense and the office of the president before they ever go out. The reason is that with the wrong ROEs you can end up with a war or a nuclear war on your hands that you never intended. The President makes those decisions himself, not some 2-star 7 levels down the chain of command.

246 posted on 11/22/2003 12:41:57 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Pukin Dog
CINC sets goals and conditions for victory. That is the extent of their wartime policy.

Oh BS.

248 posted on 11/22/2003 12:47:32 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Pukin Dog
It was men, right

I was a submariner. Gentlemen never tell.

250 posted on 11/22/2003 12:50:52 PM PST by AndyJackson
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