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To: Destro
We have been in a World WAR with islam, which started in Europe... and the AMERICAN people don't even truly realize this.

They think this is payback for 9-11.
9-11 was instead, the islamic version of pearl harbor... after minor incursions in the former yugoslavian state...

and despite toppling two countries since 9-11, we are no ways near eradication of the problem... because as a nation, to the very top level, WE are in denial... "Islam is Peace" don't you know?

Bush cannot declare war without being further painted as a WAR MONGER, which he absolutely abhors being labelled as... the sad truth is, we are in an escalating war that will end up killing billions. BILLIONS... whether Bush is president or not...

The only difference is, if we have a hawk for president, we might survive better than if we have a piece of crap for president, like hillary... SHE would get us all killed with her incompetance. Bush endangers us with the lie "islam is peace" clearly it is not.

Maybe after the election right?
After Turkey is overrun?
and the balkans?
and the saudis fall?
and the now ill egyptian president is overthrown in a coupe d'etat? replaced with an ayatollah from Iran?

I got lotsa questions.
I am getting no answers.. but I believe major escalation is underway... on a whole host of levels...

Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?
4 posted on 11/21/2003 4:03:39 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino... LWMPTBHFTOSTA....)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

Yes, I've been saying so for a long time, since before clinton gave the orders to bomb Belgrade. The trouble started when clinton went into Bosnia to help the Muslims.

6 posted on 11/21/2003 4:10:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

14 posted on 11/21/2003 4:29:30 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

15 posted on 11/21/2003 4:32:10 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

16 posted on 11/21/2003 4:32:15 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I, like many US citizens, through utter ignorance, initially supported our policy in the Balkans. I saw the conflict initially as a contest between good and evil. A contest between an evil oppessor and the oppressed. A secular conflict.

Like most US citizens I played a lot of historical, catchup ball as the conflict widened. The pattern that emerged was not secular but religious. The continuation of a religious conflict that stretched back to the middle ages.

Should we have opposed a totalitarian regiem, bent on genocide, in principal? Yes. Should we have developed the means for Islam to reach epidemic proportions? No.

My hindsight is 20/20.

17 posted on 11/21/2003 4:42:54 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I AGREE WITH YOUR ANALOGY WITH PEARL.

WE CANNOT DECLARE WAR BECAUSE THERE IS NO STATE TO
DECLARE WAR ON. WE COULD DECLARE WAR ON ISLAM BUT
HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT.

ANSWERS? CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS
SAMUEL P HUNTINGTON
23 posted on 11/21/2003 5:54:19 PM PST by Dog Anchor
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To: Robert_Paulson2
>> After Turkey is overrun?

Bwah-hah

Bwah-hah

Bwah-hah-hah-hah-haaaaa!


25 posted on 11/21/2003 6:01:11 PM PST by a_Turk (Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light....)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
The muslims bring the fight down to the family unit. It may be culture vs culture but it is fought at the smallest denominator. Making us the unprepared. Normal relations in Western civilizations do not contain homicide bombers. They are simply tactics in the larger picture. What is required is a simple response. Their tactics are maximum casulties with minimum loss. The response should be similar. When muslims are at prayer attack, they are vulnerable. As abhorrent as it sounds we need to attack their women and children, for that is what they have done to us. That is the only thing that will stop them. The men consider it a privlage to die for allah. The women create children that are the next wave of fighters. Eliminate the women and children and they have no fighters. As terrible as this sounds this is how wars have been fought. When you are no longer able to field a force you are defeated.
29 posted on 11/21/2003 7:32:38 PM PST by KingofQue
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I sure hope you aren't saying we should have backed our "friends" the Serbs. Under Milosevic, Yugoslavia & its successor Serbian entities were busy arming Iraq, Libya and indirectly anyone Libya and Iraq supplied. The Serbs were selling weaponry including explosives for use in artillery shells, rocket fuel, cruise missile technology, maintenance assistance and even providing military and defense technology advisers throughout the 90s and right on up to 2002; all in violation of international sanctions and in direct opposition to U.S. interests. Its very possible that American soldiers have been killed or maimed in Iraq with explosives provided by the Serbs. The Yugos/Serbs have done much the same with Qaddafi's Libya, so who knows how much stuff has gone further to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

The U.S. government has protested and Kostunica has been doing his best to get this under control, but corruption & anti-American attitudes among Milosevic hold-overs have made it tough to root it all out. Under Milosevic, Serbia was an enemy of the USA and a friend to our enemies.

33 posted on 11/21/2003 8:03:12 PM PST by mark502inf
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