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Is the 'Cat in the Hat' subversive?
National Review ^
| 11/21/03
| John Miller
Posted on 11/21/2003 10:07:17 AM PST by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke
I look at "Horton Hears a Who" as an inadvertantly pro-life story. "A Who is a Who no matter how small." I think he intended it to be about nuclear war.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:48:39 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: shattered
of course Dr. Seuss would have loved to live in a liberal paradise such as this country:
where the earth was treated much better. (sarcasm off) The environment is better off in the hands of a country with a representative democracy and capitalism such as ours.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:49:32 AM PST
by
KantianBurke
(Don't Tread on Me)
To: shattered
I agree that caring about the environment crosses party lines, but I would go even further and say that environmentalism used to be peculiarly a characteristic of the Republican party from the beginning.
The earliest Republican candidates and presidents supported national parks and conservation, and it was a Republican president (IIRC Grant) who dedicated the first national park.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:49:53 AM PST
by
CobaltBlue
(I am the Lorax! I speak for the trees. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues.)
To: KantianBurke
Green Eggs and Ham was one of my favorites.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:50:02 AM PST
by
Chewbacca
(I talk to myself because it is the only way I can have an intelligent conversation.)
To: KantianBurke
I had the privilege of meeting and talking with Alexander Kerensky, forty years ago. I know the history of his democratic government, that was overthrown by Vladimir Lenin. The nonsense of this article begins with the implication that Kerensky was on a continuum that lead in a short step from him to Lenin. That is unmitigated twaddle.
As for the rest of the article, I agree with your comment. These are CHILDREN'S BOOKS, for crying out loud. The writer of this article is getting his knickers in a twist over nothing.
Congressman Billybob
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:51:00 AM PST
by
Congressman Billybob
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To: Burkeman1
Thanks for the sanity. What sanity? Suess characters?
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:51:36 AM PST
by
cornelis
To: KantianBurke
No idea onthe politics of his books, but kids certainly enjoy them. No harm there.
I dislike Geisel for his personal behavior though. Didn't he treat his first wife dreadfully as she was dying for a long illness, carrying on with a mutual friend as his wife lay dying, driving her to suicide? Or am I thinking of another Dr Seuss? ;-)
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:52:54 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: cornelis
I like "Marvin K. Mooney." It's fun.
Towards the end of my Seuss reading years, my favorite was "There's a Wocket in My Pocket!", with the yeps on the steps and the bofa on the sofa.
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11/21/2003 10:53:15 AM PST
by
CobaltBlue
(You can go by boat, you can go by rail, you can stamp yourself and go by mail!)
To: livius
The message was definitely one of mushy liberalism, at best, but I think it was just typical of the times in which it was written and the class of people among whom he lived (and probably for whom he was writing). Try "Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose." The story line should make any conservative stand up and cheer. Thidwick kindly lets an ant take a ride on his antlers. The ant invites his friend the bird, who invites his friend the squirrel, etc., until Thidwick can barely support the group nesting on his head. Eventually, Thidwick is cornered by hunters. He can't escape because of the weight on his head. But then... Thidwick sheds his antlers. It's that time of the year. And Thidwick escapes to join up with the rest of the herd. The freeloaders wind up stuffed, mounted and hung over the hunter's mantlepiece.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:53:52 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: KantianBurke
I'm reminded of Jesse Jackson reading "Green Eggs and Ham" on SNL. Hilarious.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:54:49 AM PST
by
asformeandformyhouse
(If it's not a baby, then you're not pregnant.)
To: Congressman Billybob
These are CHILDREN'S BOOKS, for crying out loud Is that a crying argument?
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:54:52 AM PST
by
cornelis
To: HitmanNY
Fooling around while his wife was in bed with cancer? Sure you don't mean Newt Gingrich?
To: cornelis
And if I describe it now I'd say it was the child's version of "Waiting for Godot." LOL! I had a negative reaction as an adult, but mostly because the ending seemed like a cheap out. My kids liked it though. They saw it as a joke.
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11/21/2003 10:57:21 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: CobaltBlue
Our Religious Ed Department recommends "Horton Hears a Who" for "Respect Life" classes.
Because as Horton says: "A person's a person, no matter how small"
...
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:01:23 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: shattered
IMO, being against the destruction of the earth's forests, water and air as depicted in the the Lorax crosses party lines, or should. Dr. Suess may have been a liberal but lots of people care about preserving nature where possible. Of course you're right, but some people here won't be happy until the last tree is cut down to clear space for a restaurant that specializes in endangered species.
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:03:57 AM PST
by
WackyKat
To: Chewbacca
"Green Eggs and Ham"
And for very young children just learning to read you can't beat "Hop on Pop".
To this day we still fling out little phrases from that book like "Upside down like Mr. Brown".
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:04:02 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: KantianBurke
Ever read "The Lorax?" Paints industry as environmental rapists. But it was written in a time when there were virtually no restrictions on developing land too.
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:05:36 AM PST
by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: KantianBurke
Theodore Giesl, "Dr. Seuss", was a master propagandist, and a lifelong admirer of the Soviet Union. He was involved in some of the blackest anti-Nazi diatribes ever launched in the name of the US government under FDR, which expressed most eloquently his admiration of the Josef Stalin who took up arms against Adolf Hitler. And you thought his colorful books were innocent children's tales?
The Seuss books have been around for a couple of generations now. The public school teachers got this indoctrination before they started school themselves, and they have a receptive audience now for the propaganda buried in the pages of "The Lorax" and the "Star-Bellied Sneeches".
To: KantianBurke
I'm sorry if some children's books don't meet your test for Ideological Purity
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:07:00 AM PST
by
WackyKat
To: Aquinasfan
the like it though If it's gonna work at all, subversion is likeable and wears a smile.
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:07:17 AM PST
by
cornelis
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