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Cause of the Hepatitis A outbreak in Pennsylvania according to the PA health dept.
KDKA Radio 1020, Pittsburgh | 11/21/03

Posted on 11/21/2003 8:09:43 AM PST by Dane

According to a press conference by the Pennsylvania Dept. of Health, the cause of the Hepatitis A outbreak, that has so far infected 575 people and caused 3 deaths, came from green onions.

All those infected ate at a Chi-Chi's restaurant at the Beaver Valley Mall located in Center Township, PA.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: hepatitis; hepatitisonions
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To: William McKinley
Yes, which is why it took so long

Well, it is definitive as far as it goes, but it will be more comprehensively definitive if they can determine how the Hep-A got onto the onions.

21 posted on 11/21/2003 8:21:10 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: Sabertooth
The last time was Mexican cantalope.
22 posted on 11/21/2003 8:21:40 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Dane
The health dept. has no idea if the green onions came from Mexico

Really? I live in the Seattle area and was listening to the local morning broadcasts this a.m., and they were saying that the green onions DID come from Mexico.

I, personally, have had a policy of NOT buying veggies from Mexico for years. I disagree with NAFTA and would prefer paying a few cents more for stuff from CA or WA. But, the other reason I avoid Mexican veggies is that every time we have one of these hepatitis outbreaks from vegetables, it inevitably seems to be traced back to Mexico. I avoid Mexican produce if at all possible.

23 posted on 11/21/2003 8:23:07 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: MissAmericanPie
My pop seems to recall a problem with Mexican strawberries too, anyone else remember that?
24 posted on 11/21/2003 8:23:22 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: Dane
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FDA bans scallions linked to hepatitis A outbreak 11/20/2003 8:28 PM By: Associated Press WASHINGTON -- Mexican scallions from companies linked to outbreaks of hepatitis A are getting held at the U.S. border.>P? The Food and Drug Administration said investigators implicated raw green onions from three firms.

It said products from those companies are being held for investigation.

The liver infections occurred in Tennessee and Georgia last September.

FDA also said it is looking into the source of the latest outbreak of hepatitis A, the largest known in U.S. history.

It left three dead and sickened more than 540 people who'd eaten at a now-closed Chi-Chi's Mexican restaurant in western Pennsylvania

25 posted on 11/21/2003 8:23:57 AM PST by freetradenotfree
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To: Petronski
I think it is doubtful they will ever know that. Odds are, the batch of onions involved is long gone (either used or discarded long before the first symptoms ever showed up).

From this thread:

Green onions stay low to the ground, LaBorde said, with the bulb below the ground and the shoots sticking up. If human or animal waste is used as fertilizer, or if contaminated water is used to irrigate the field, the virus can easily work its way down into the plant.

And once the plant is contaminated, it's almost impossible to clean because of the onion's many layers, said Dr. Ronnie Martin, chair of family medicine at Nova Southeastern University College of Osteopathic Medicine in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

"If I contaminated a large field of green onions, and it got down inside the top of that growing onion, I would almost have to slice down each one of those layers and wash the whole thing inside and out," Martin said.

Martin said the virus can be killed by thoroughly cooking food, but green onions often are eaten raw or only lightly cooked.

Good to hear that thoroughly cooking them does the trick.
26 posted on 11/21/2003 8:24:39 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: LibertarianLiz
...very time we have one of these hepatitis outbreaks from vegetables, it inevitably seems to be traced back to Mexico. I avoid Mexican produce if at all possible.

I've heard they fertilize their produce with people poop. Is that true?

27 posted on 11/21/2003 8:24:51 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: William McKinley
Good to hear that thoroughly cooking them does the trick.

Though some of the best uses for scallions involves eating them raw.

28 posted on 11/21/2003 8:26:01 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: Petronski
Yes,the food too
29 posted on 11/21/2003 8:26:02 AM PST by freetradenotfree
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To: Rockitz
I agree with you.....onions need a good cleaning....they're like trying to clean your teeth....you almost need dental floss in between the dark green parts.....sooooo....clean your onions good folks, and BUY AMERICAN green onions.

As a former orchardists wife, I laugh at people who think all the cheap produce is great....it comes with a price....like all those sprays we can't use here in the USA....well they use them elsewhere, and all the rules we have here for our growers....they do NOT have most of those rules elsewhere. People need to buy a clue....plus cooking your own food CAN (depending upon your hygenic teachings) mean LESS health problems.

30 posted on 11/21/2003 8:26:58 AM PST by goodnesswins (Goodness DOES win.)
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To: Petronski




I've heard they fertilize their produce with people poop. Is that true?

The particulate in Mexican air pollution can be heavy with human fecal dust, as can be the particulate in Mexican water.


31 posted on 11/21/2003 8:27:32 AM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: William McKinley
Thoroughly cooking anything does the trick.
32 posted on 11/21/2003 8:28:00 AM PST by Registered
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To: Petronski
YEP...I remember the strawberries problem.
33 posted on 11/21/2003 8:28:03 AM PST by goodnesswins (Aren't you glad you were BORN IN THE USA?)
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To: Petronski
True. But I was referring to the fact that I just used a bunch last weekend (and I live in southwestern PA).

But I washed them, and then half of them were simmered for a half hour, and then all of them were baked for a half hour. So that's a bit comforting.

34 posted on 11/21/2003 8:28:22 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Rockitz
Thanks i was wondering how the Hep could get on the onions and your theory offers a solution.

I love green onions and will wash them more throughly, maybe i should always cook them.

35 posted on 11/21/2003 8:28:40 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: Dane
I saw in the scroll at the bottom of FOX screen, that there were also outbreaks of hepatitis in Kentucky and Tennessee, the same week.
36 posted on 11/21/2003 8:29:15 AM PST by Eva
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To: William McKinley
I'd guess you're safe...also, wouldn't hep-a symptoms have started already? I don't know.
37 posted on 11/21/2003 8:29:18 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: flamefront
I think most of the onions, in the US or Mexico are picked by hand labor so they could have become infected on either side of the border.
38 posted on 11/21/2003 8:29:25 AM PST by tiki
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To: Dane
Early articles noted that this Chi-Chi's started getting green onions from a local source in mid October rather than their "usual" source .

By mid October there were cases already diagnosed. Did reports from KY and other states alert them to the possible source? If this was the case they responded responsibly by trying to eliminate one souce of possible contamination immediatly.

39 posted on 11/21/2003 8:30:14 AM PST by codder too
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To: Petronski
Not by what I read- the latency period before symptoms is a few weeks.
40 posted on 11/21/2003 8:30:25 AM PST by William McKinley
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