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To: dueler88; All
Its a long read, but a relevant Ping! based on our current conversation on this issue, Dueler.

I guess I can understand the threat to Constitutional Protections. Didn't WW2 involve a mild state of martial law through its entirety?. What choice is there really? The danger lies in our current state of disharmony. In the face of disaster, will this nation be patient and faithful when it comes to the rigid requirements of martial authority needed to restore civil order and public safety. In the novel, The Postman, Brin outlines how America's collapse occurred not because of any one factor. But it was a combination of relatively small events that chipped away at the civil structure of a nation whose values and convictions were already stretched too thin by ideological division.

OBL is one smart cat. He or his planners new exactly the right attack needed and where on the towers that would bring them down. It shows a level of understanding of that structure's engineering and it's weaknesses that far exceed our expectations. I also believe that OBL believes himself to be a prophet. He acts and speaks in poetics that will be recorded in perpetuity. WTC was a metaphor. He knows exactly what is needed to destroy this nation from within. The Left has played right into his hands destroying any unity that we had and that we desperately need at this time.

That WMD will be a plane driven into the guts of America... spilling superheated fuel that will liquefy our exposed integrity. We will collapse. The enemy will rush in and take our heads.

...Unless something changes or we pull another 'Midway' out of our hat. Perhaps Iraq IS our Midway.

So is this about religion? I seriously doubt it... at least as far as the 'instigators' are concerned. OBL is simply one instigator and his motives are not likely what they appear to be. I'd suggest that a handful of directors have an intent that they have been using to pervert the motives of a hundred thousand puppets both here in America and in the Middle and Far East. World Leftist are unfortunately, playing into this model quite effectively for our enemies and much to this nation's detriment.

The fundamental question would be this: Is the Left capable of tossing away their animosity and opposition in the face of an emminent threat? Our enemies have been brilliant so far in not providing that motive. Are they playing us like a fiddle? Again who are they? And are they the same ‘they’ that are directing ‘our’ puppets here... directing their Islamic puppets and our Anti puppets according to ancient tenants of warfare… ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend.’? America is the enemy of the instigators. George Bush and American's(those with common sense) are the ginned-up threat to both sets of mindless puppets.

As for the 'Instigators?' Who would they be? My guess is idealistic Communists and ex-Soviets. The world Mafia of thugs and tyrants that is personified by the U.N. and Kofi Annon... the biggest beneficiaries of world strife.

Like many others at this thread, in light of these observations, I am not certain that we can ride out that sort of shock right now. Some may recognize the beginnings of a reversal of past optimism on my part. I generally agree with you, however, that we are certainly capable of the strength needed to perservere in this struggle. But, I also recognize that our perserverance depends on unity and consistency... both virtues in very short supply at the moment throughout Western Civilization.

Again, I suggest that the Visigoths have appeared over the last hill. The gates of Rome are open. Will we take up arms and fight as one... or perish as half of us tuck tail and run.

Civilization lives or dies with us here and now.


408 posted on 12/03/2003 1:14:04 PM PST by Mr.Atos
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