Visiting French minister wants Navy to buy France vessels (France Looking To Team Up With The JV)

New Zealand Herald ^ | 21.11.2003 | FRAN O'SULLIVAN

[Nebr FAL owner]

Not sure they ships screw fell off I heard that part of one blade was lost during a high speed run . If so that would be even worse as the screw would be out of balance the vibration would wreck all kinds of machinery .

[cardinal4]

What an odd concept-after all, Frances biggest Military victory of the last 100 years was the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior!

[McGavin999]

If the french wanted to take out the Rainbow Warrior, they should have done it on the high seas, not in the harbor of another country. That was an unprecidented insult.

I agree that they had no business taking the RW out, but I also think they had no business doing nuclear testing either. The french make their own rules.

You're just expected to buy their stuff.

[shaggy eel]

,,, call it a victory, call it whatever you want - in all seriousness, it was terrorism and that long ago, the French were at the cutting edge of it in the South Pacific.

[skinkinthegrass]

with a white flag and automatic hoister in case the boat is confronted ...the SS Minnow.

hehehe... :))

[shaggy eel]

,,, you've worked it out. Bravo! The way things are going with our socialist Prime Minister who spends so much time out of NZ kissing socialist arses, we will probably buy everything the French dump on us, surrender manuals and all.

[jla]

...in case the boat is confronted with various dangers such as pirates, rough seas, sharks or the SS Minnow.

LOL

[McGavin999]

LOL, I have no doubt that once you guys get rid of the socialist you'll be back as a regular part of humanity and won't be forced to buy french stuff.

[shaggy eel]

,,, their products are actually OK - they manage to scale the heights of arrogance too regularly though.

[cardinal4]

Terrorism it certainly was. It was done at the time the French were testing nukes in the South Pacific. I certainly meant no disrespect to NZ. The French, however will never escape disrespect from me..

How are things, BTW?

[shaggy eel]

,,, things are somewhat spectacular, thanx. I should really be asking you that. Aren't you about to be married or have just been married?

[cardinal4]

We were married 11 Oct. Thanks for remembering! Im very lucky to have married her, a wonderful mother, friend and companion. I have some friends in my office who are tying the knot next summer. They are torn between marrying in NZ and Alaska. NZ for the scenery in the LOTR, and Whalewatching by helicopter. Alaska to pan for gold. Ah, the carefree days of youth...!

We came home after our reception and arent going on our Honeymonn til December, and these kids want to go to NZ!

[shaggy eel]

,,, superb! Excellent to know that you're so happy and settled. God's blessings for you both! If you get down this way, you've got my contact details and you'll be most welcome. Just after Christmas thru March/April delivers the best weather for us.

[Willie Green]

Yes, it had a screw loose.

Among other problems. New Carrier's Flight Deck Too Short

[Neophyte]

take out an unarmed protest vessel in a terrorist plot?

Allow me not to agree with you, Shaggy.

Those crowds of traitors marching against their own nations in the streets of London today aren't armed, too... for the time being. But they are militarily organised (exactly like Hitlerist stormtroopers were) and able to grab weapons the moment their leaders order.

All Communist organisations changed their names in the recent decades and became either "democratic", or "environmental", or "human rights" movements. Feeble disguise, but for those who're gullible it works!

So "Rainbow Warrior" wasn't just a nuisance, she was part of a trend, and this trend led to today's environazism - our very own Fart Tax being part of it.

[dighton]

A golden oldie! Thanks for linking it.

Posted by Ditto:

Actually, I heard the De Gaulle does not use arresting cables. About 10 meters up the flight deck thay have a puddle Bouillabaisse followed by a tasty bed of Moules Marinières quickly backed up by a hearty helping of Boeuf Bourguignon. The last stop is generous spread of mousse au chocolat that has enough cholesterol to stop a fully loaded C5-A.

After landing, pilots decent below decks to debriefing with Cognac and fine cigars followed by a roll in the sack with the Skipper's wife.

Vive La’France!

[shaggy eel]

,,, yep, I'm aware of the green cause being steered by the marxists etc. but a government sinking a vessel like that under those circumstances isn't on, in my opinion.

[blackie]

"Re-read posts 29 & 31. Do you agree that what the French government did in Auckland harbour was an act of terrorism? That's all there is to it... a civilian ship, a foreign harbour and two DGSE agents entering New Zealand specifically to sink that vessel."

My observation wasn't about the site of the deed ~ it was the deed it'self that I found so enjoyable.

As I said, I wasn't there and I barely remember it.

Why didn't the New Zealand government do something about it ~ that's what seems strange to me ~ is/was the gang in power down there a bunch of pussies?

[shaggy eel]

My observation wasn't about the site of the deed ~ it was the deed itself that I found so enjoyable.

,,, Greenpeace, for better or worse suffered from and act of terrorism. The US can't claim exclusivity in this regard. Such acts occur anywhere the perpetrators choose. Taking geography, timeframe and your proximity out of the equation, can you isolate any difference between Sept 11 and the Rainbow Warrior event? The main one I can list as reflex is that a government ordered this event on a civilian ship in what could loosely be termed as "France's national interest". That put France at the bottom of my list in international credibility for western nations. Further, the fact that they cling so desperately to the UN confirms for me that I'm on the right track in not trusting them. I'm hoping New Zealand doesn't purchase naval hardware from global citizen France.

The Lange government of the day initially made a naive statement that the two French agents who did the deed would never go free. New Zealand exports were subsequently under threat and the DGSE agents were flown home to France. Things quietened down but I recall I needed a visa to visit France in 1989 and was detained for a short time at the Italian border as I entered. It had implications at many levels for businesses and individuals.

[blackie]

Anything that happens to greenpeace, sierra club, earth first, earth liberation front and other enviornazi groups ~ that damages, destroys, breaks up, humiliates and eradicates them ~ works for me ~ Big Time!