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Wal-Mart's lesson on immigration: This could be you
Kansas City Business Journal ^
| 11-18-03
| David Twiddy
Posted on 11/20/2003 11:52:55 AM PST by LibertySailor
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To: LibertySailor
did you see those news accounts?Sure didn't - thanks...
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:28:12 PM PST
by
trebb
To: LibertySailor
I think it's a concept everyone has to interpret for themselves.....
In other words, I have no clue. I picked it on a whim.
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:28:52 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
('Bread and Circuses' ...Fun until you run out of dough.)
To: LibertySailor
pig latin??
No, that's Ig-pay Atin-lay! ;)
To: sphinx
Read up on agency law in any business textbook. Walmart will argue that these contractors were independent agents. THis will make it harder for attorneys to pillage them...
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:30:14 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
('Bread and Circuses' ...Fun until you run out of dough.)
To: trebb
I got an idea. Let's hold the INS responsible for any illegal aliens in this country.
To: .cnI redruM
That is correct in principle, and WalMart will probably win. But the lawyers only have to get lucky with one jury. That's what this is about.
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:34:07 PM PST
by
sphinx
To: .cnI redruM
One problem is that the INTENT of INS/DOJ related law can conflict with the government's instructions related to EEO. My boss went to a seminar and was told by regucrats there that if the documents presented have the proper form numbers on them, it is not the employers job to scrutinize those documents for legitimacy.
The question the is, would you rather have a $10,000.00 fine per worker, or a civil judgement which could be millions per worker?
To: sphinx
To sue a corporation for the misdeeds of it's agents, one of two things have to be true. (In order to win).
> THe corporation has to be compromised. THis would be true if Walmart owned a lot of it's stock or if JimBob Walton VII was on its BoD.
> THe corporation has prior knowledge AND demonstrates willful complicity to the misdeeds in question.
THat's waht the plaintiff needs to prove in order to vampire Walmart.
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:40:15 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
('Bread and Circuses' ...Fun until you run out of dough.)
To: .cnI redruM
A company is required by law to ensure that anyone they hire is in the country legally. BUT all they can do is ask the potential employee for a picture ID and Social Insecurity Card or immigration documents like a green card. go any further than that and you leave yourself open to a discrimination suit. If the new hire has presented fake documents, the employer is on the hook.
The only way to be safe is to have no employees at all.
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posted on
11/20/2003 12:58:31 PM PST
by
Chuckster
("Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw)
To: LibertySailor
Still remember old Puce Pelosi and her socialist viewpoint on the raid. Apparently, the RATS lost some votes from the illegals that the RATS would make legal so they could vote for any and all RATS as a "thank you."
US Rep. Pelosi says Wal-Mart arrests "terrorizing"
Forbes ^ | 10-24-03 | Reuters
Posted on 10/24/2003 7:54 PM PDT by libertyisnotfree
US Rep. Pelosi says Wal-Mart arrests "terrorizing"
Reuters, 10.24.03, 6:15 PM ET
MEXICO CITY, Oct 24 (Reuters) - U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said on Friday police raids on dozens of U.S. Wal-Mart stores in the search for illegal immigrants this week amounted to "terrorizing" workers.
"It instills a great deal of fear in people who are only trying to earn a living and put food on the table for their family," Pelosi, a California Democrat, told reporters on a Congressional visit to Mexico.
Hundreds of workers at Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (nyse: WMT - news - people) locations across the United States were arrested on immigration charges on Thursday in an investigation into contractor cleaning crews.
"We think there might be a better way to go about this because the fact is that it is against the law for the employer to hire these people so there should be more focus on the employer and less in these terrorizing raids," Pelosi said.
She was speaking after meeting Mexican President Vicente Fox for talks on immigration and border security.
Pelosi said the Wal-Mart raids showed the need to legalize undocumented workers in parts of the economy other than just the agricultural sector.
Several bills to grant legal status to illegal immigrants working in U.S. agriculture are before Congress, including the Berman-Cannon bill which would let an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants earn legal residency.
Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service
To: trebb
you want me to post links to them when I find them?
To: lilylangtree
Pelosi is pure scum IMHO
To: brownsfan
LOL
To: .cnI redruM
it sure is unique
To: sphinx
The lawyers are going after WalMart because it has deep pockets, but it's still a dangerous precedent. There is more to it than just that. Other competitors can sue WalMart for damages under RICO which caries significant recovery and punitive damage awards. They can claim that by hiring illegal aliens at substandard wages WalMart was able to gain an unfair and illegal market advantage.
When you think about how many companies WalMart has put out of operation, there are a lot potential litigants out there.
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posted on
11/20/2003 1:58:38 PM PST
by
usurper
To: LibertySailor; gubamyster; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Especially if you're with Wal-Mart
WalMart Bash -sarcasm- I mean Ping!
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posted on
11/20/2003 2:09:48 PM PST
by
JustPiper
(All 19 of the hijackers entered the U.S. on valid visas- 18 of 19 had State Driver's Licenses!!!)
To: theartfuldodger
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posted on
11/20/2003 2:11:08 PM PST
by
TLI
(...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
To: JustPiper
LOL
To: LibertySailor
reads backward
To: Don Corleone
I did
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