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To: Jacvin
You are not familiar with the basic Catholic teachings, so I will post them again in case you miss them.

Real the whole Catechism, and you will find that there is no real contradictions in the Catholic teachings.

Catholic Church Catechism

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964

16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126); But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator.

In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind


549 posted on 11/20/2003 4:55:55 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
I've already read your link Mr. brain surgeon.
Read my post #546.

You've found one line in the Catechism supporting your opinion and you keep repeating it over and over while ignoring obvious contradictions that I've pointed out.

I don't think you're even Catholic. I think you're a Muslim cultist.

You don't seem to understand that the Catechism is not "infallible" and the Nicene Creed is.

I think someone sent you a link or you looked it up specifically for this thread because you don’t seem to know much about anything but your one line in 841.

Of course I’m sure you are aware of this since you know so much about Catholicism

La Civiltà Cattolica,” edited by a group of Jesuits in Rome, is a very special magazine. Every one of its articles is reviewed by the Vatican secretary of state before publication. So the magazine reflects his thought faithfully.

In its October 18 edition, “La Civiltà Cattolica” published a strikingly severe article on the condition of Christians in Muslim countries. The central thesis of the article is that “in all of its history, Islam has shown a warlike and conquering face”; that “for almost a thousand years, Europe lived under its constant threat”; and that what remains of the Christian population in Islamic countries is still subjected to “perpetual discrimination,” with episodes of bloody persecution.


I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Catechism change in a few years.

Catechism is after all a “living document” and subject to change.

Savor your one line while you can.

553 posted on 11/20/2003 6:48:30 PM PST by Jacvin
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To: george wythe
Thanks for posting this.
555 posted on 11/20/2003 7:19:25 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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