VICTORY!!!! Verification expansion goes to President

Numbers USA ^ | 11-19-03 | Roy Beck

[Klickitat]

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[concerned about politics]

Nothing moves fast. But by December of 2004 (a year from now), every business in America will have a nearly sure-fire way to verify if a new employee is an illegal alien or has the right to work in America. Most importantly, no business in America will have an excuse for hiring illegals.

WOW. That means Democrats will have no excuse not to work! Imagine the social programs we could get rid of then!
Sign it Bush. Let's move this baby.

[Gunslingr3]

Not using the system will be proof that an enterprise is a shady business.

Some people beg to be yoked by government.

[JustPiper]

If this keeps up, I can vote for W!

[Plutarch]

You'd think organized labor would be behind this bill in a big way, as illegals erode pay scales.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

"But the program is voluntary."

We didn't win anything but 'feel good' nonsense. It's VOLUNTARY. The fight goes on inspite of this hollow victory.

[Sandy]

Is there some evidence that the pilot program has been a success? If not, expanding it would be a pretty dumb idea.

[Penny]

Your pessimism notwithstanding, those of us who have responded to all of USA Numbers alerts are delighted with the outcome and realize we as citizens have some weapons if we'll exercise them.

I, for example, am housed next door to two families of Mexicans who recently moved into the neighborhood (where I've lived for 12 years). Each family has multiple vehicles in the driveway--some brand-new trucks; the wives stay home instead of working out of the home; sometimes as many as twenty other Mexicans sit on the lawn drinking beer and throwing beer caps and cigarette butts all over the cul de sac they spill over onto.

I have written letters to my congressman and, more importantly, to the Criminal Investigation Unit in Austin, Texas, asking whether the families AND the employers (names on two of the trucks) pay income taxes. My ZIP code alone should indicate to the IRS that the occupants are at least making a hefty salary to afford the houses they live in--and it can go after the employment records of the plumbing company that hired them.

Long shot? Sure, but worth my time. It's worth the time of people in the majority of the states, too, to pay attention to the increased density of living in general when illegal occupants move into America in large numbers--to increased strain on all resources, from roads to schools to hospitals.

If you or anyone on this forum suspect an employer of hiring illegals, it is your public duty to report the suspicious activity.

Best wishes,
Penny

[dpwiener]

"Not using the system will be proof that an enterprise is a shady business."
Some people beg to be yoked by government.

It's even worse than that. Some people insist on forging their own chains, and then wrapping themselves in those chains and hammering the links into place.

It's pretty pathetic to watch people "voluntarily" surrendering their liberty to intrusive government edicts.

[janetgreen]

Way to go Penny! It's easy to sit around and complain about the mess, but you're taking action, we need more like you!

[Penny]

Thank you for your words of encouragement, Janet. Creeping upon us since the Mazoli-Simpson bill in the mid-1980s, we have now added 50 million to our population. In my neighborhood now, up and down the streets are Mexican women pushing buggies of babies. Who is paying their pre-natal and delivery costs? Ummmmmmmmm . . . . Could it be hard-working American citizens?

Best to you,
Penny

[Fledermaus]

Sounds okay...I haven't read it all. But it's at least a better step than those STUPID and USELESS I-9 forms.

Does this bill eliminate the I-9?

[Fledermaus]

Well, more and more and MORE companies and businesses are swtiching to outside payroll processing companies to pay and file taxes and comply with the law.

I guarantee these services will offer and use this law to help their clients.

And large companies will take the time since it could help to eliminate legal problems and increase compliance under many government regulations.

[Fledermaus]

We've already got the I-9 form and it wasn't asked for by anyone...it was IMPOSED.

[Klickitat]

"Not using the system will be proof that an enterprise is a shady business." Some people beg to be yoked by government."

"It's even worse than that. Some people insist on forging their own chains, and then wrapping themselves in those chains and hammering the links into place."

"It's pretty pathetic to watch people "voluntarily" surrendering their liberty to intrusive government edicts."

I don't see what you are both talking about. We already have a system in place in this country that requires employers to check ID. I don't know how long it's been since either of you got a new job, but I know that for at least the last 15 years, every new job I was required to show a social security card and valid identification before being hired, and that this was government mandated.

This program merely provides a database that employers can reference, not new laws about requiring identification. Far as I can tell that's it. The only people who would not benefit from this would be those who are trying to hide their identity, or people who've stolen someone elses identity, both categories could include illegal aliens or other criminals.

Also if you read the article it is the people who would come up with a way to let others know which businesses weren't in compliance. Not the government. And it would be the people, not the government, who boycotted those businesses.

[Klickitat]

Well I prefer legislation like this over legislation that grants amnesty to another 30 million illegals. But after the election next year get ready, those amnesties will be headed for approval and it will be up to citizens to try to stop it.

[Klickitat]

Not that I know of.

[moehoward]

This is good news.