[T.Smith]

But don't blame the queers. It's the straights who started this self-destructive trip in making marriage a selfish institution rather than the selfless one it was designed to be.

I'll agree with that. Marriage ceased to be the firm idyllac foundation that most people claim a long time ago. Society cannot stand without the family unit, but straights started trashing the institution a long time ago. If a higher proportion of gay "marriages" stand the test of time than do hetero marriages, then more power to them. I'm happy to see people committed to each other.

[ArGee]

If a higher proportion of gay "marriages" stand the test of time than do hetero marriages, then more power to them.

Why wouldn't they? Men have a far easier time living with men than with women, and vice versa. But that's hardly a basis for creating the adults necessary to sustain a culture.

That's why civilizations that embrace homosexuality always have faild shortly (in an historic perspective) thereafter.

It takes a real man to live with the differences a woman brings into his life. And it takes a special kind of love.

Shalom.