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To: rmlew
Try to follow me here, I was giving the political rhetoric you will hear from the D's, and you proved my point for how difficult it will be for Bush to communicate a different strategy.

The challenge would be to find an alternative way to frame the argument that pleases the Right. That is the nature of figuring out political alliances. I am already concerned that on this point alone, you would lean 'left' (or towards the Ds anyway) rather than to the Right on a 'bring the boys home' phraseology.

I provided a link to the story of his recantation, but you are incorrect, he wrote it as an anti-fascist not an anti-Communist. Orwell only recanted picking up a gun for the the Stalin backed Reds in the Spanish American War in the late 40s.

But here, read Orwell in his own words on your line there.

Like I said, I love the irony.

69 posted on 11/21/2003 10:22:22 AM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
Thank you for the link. I had never seen Orwell/Blair's article, "As I please."

I do think that there are weaknesses in Orwell's argument.
Trotskyites were always anti-Fascist. They were anti-Fascist in the early 1930's, during the Spanish Civil war (even as the Stalinists were killing members of PUM), and during the Nazi-Soviet de fact alliance.
On the other hand the British peaceniks always helped Hitler. They kept the UK from re-arming, formented opposition to action in the Commonwealth, and promoted strikes that would have crippled the war effort.
Frankly, Orwell's disestablishmentarian opposition to propoganda and ideology fueled a weak argument in this case.

I like Orwell. I beleieve that "1984" and his works on language should be requirements for all students of politics. However, I do not always agree with Eric Blair.

PS. You certainly take a position at odds with the Objectivist Establishment.

70 posted on 11/21/2003 5:14:36 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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