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Bush vows to defeat terror threat (Bush Speech historic and Excellent. UN is on notice)
BBC ^ | 11/19/03 | BBC

Posted on 11/19/2003 6:32:42 AM PST by Mark Felton

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21 posted on 11/19/2003 7:59:38 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: SamAdams76
I've been reading quite a bit about Homefront America from '39-'45, and would like to begin a series on Europe in the '30's during the rise of Hitler.

Would you please post your reading list?

Thanks!
22 posted on 11/19/2003 8:07:41 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Sir Gawain
People knew of the concentration camps, but did not grasp how horrific they really were. Too many people could rationalize them as being nothing more than makeshift prisons.

The Nazis had established concentration camps for political prisoners as early as 1933, but the death camps we think of when refering to concentration camps weren't really established until after the start of the war.
23 posted on 11/19/2003 8:09:01 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Sir Gawain
The media may have closed its eyes, but our government knew.

Soon after the Second World War ended, Henry Morgenthau, Jr. would recall what he called "those terrible eighteen months" in Washington, when "the Nazis were planning to exterminate all the Jews of Europe." He went on to write, "officials dodged their grim responsibility, procrastinated when concrete rescue schemes were placed before them, and even suppressed information about atrocities." The terrible 18 months Morgenthau was referring to was the period between the summer of 1942, when the State Department first heard of Hitler's plan to murder Europe's Jews, and January of 1944, when President Roosevelt set up the War Refugee Board, an institution that ultimately saved as many as 200,000 Jewish lives. Although, as secretary of the treasury, Morgenthau had few official opportunities to deal with the rescue efforts, a series of events starting in mid-1943 meant that Morgenthau and his staff at the Treasury played a key role in Roosevelt's decision to set up an agency independent of the State Department that would be charged with rescuing Europe's Jews.

Morgenthau was one of the few Jews surrounding the President, and was perhaps the most concerned by the plight of Germany's Jews. At the end of 1938, realizing that Congress was becoming increasingly unyielding on the number of immigrants who could enter the country, he went to the President with a different suggestion. He proposed that the United States acquire British and French Guiana and in return cancel whatever Britain and France still owed the United States on loans from World War I. According to Morgenthau's diary, Roosevelt was not impressed. "It's no good," the President reportedly said. "It would take the Jews five to 50 years to overcome the fever."

Nonetheless Morgenthau continued to bring news of rescue plans to the President's attention. On February 13, 1943, a "New York Times" article offered the Jews of Rumania some hope. It reported that the Rumanian government was prepared to ship the 70,000 Rumanian Jews in Transnistria to a safe haven chosen by the allies. In return, the Rumanians wanted approximately $130 per refugee to cover expenses. Morgenthau immediately pointed the story out to the President, who suggested that Morgenthau ask the State Department to look into the matter. Nothing ever came of the plan.

Later in the year, Morgenthau became much more involved in the rescue issue. The sequence of events began in April of 1943, when Gerhart Riegner, the representative of the World Jewish Congress in Geneva, sent a message to the U.S. with yet another rescue proposal. According to Riegner, if American Jewish organizations made funds available, supplies could be sent to the Jews of Transnistria. Additionally, Jewish children in the region could be moved to Palestine. And in France funds were needed to support hidden Jewish children and to finance escapes of Jews to Spain.

It was the Treasury Department's responsibility to issue the licenses required to send funds overseas. The State Department, however, didn't inform Morgenthau's staffers about Riegner's plan until late June. Once aware of what was involved, the Treasury Department rapidly approved the license. But because of further State Department delays and the procrastination of the U.S. delegation in Bern, the license was not transmitted to Riegner until late December. This was eight months after Riegner had first proposed his plan. In struggling against State Department obstructionism, the Treasury Department discovered that the State Department had at one point actually instructed the U.S. delegation in Bern to block more information about the Holocaust from reaching the U.S. Treasury Department, and staffers were so incensed by this callous indifference, they presented Morgenthau with a searing, 18-page critique of the Administration's failure to help the Jews of Europe. They entitled it "Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews." Morgenthau was also aware of political pressure mounting on Capitol Hill for an independent rescue agency. Cognizant of the possible political scandal if Roosevelt didn't seize the initiative, he urged FDR to set up an organization to deal with the refugee crisis. The President responded immediately, issuing an executive order on January 22, 1944 that established the War Refugee Board (WRB).
24 posted on 11/19/2003 8:10:06 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("We happy because when we switch on the TV you never see Saddam Hussein. That's a big happy.")
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To: Mark Felton; Howlin
Here is what the people at DU are posting regarding Bush and the U.N.

I put it on the FR IMage Server so as not to give DU idiots any traffic.

25 posted on 11/19/2003 8:15:26 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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cleanup in aisle 26 and 27. A nice zotting is needed.
28 posted on 11/19/2003 8:28:43 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Mark Felton
Chirac and Bush agree on the goals, but they disagree on timing

Bold steps by LEADERS leave the timid in their wake. Waiting for a WMD attack is NOT an option that men of vision endure!!

30 posted on 11/19/2003 8:32:13 AM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE-They will not falter-They will NOT FAIL)
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To: Mark Felton
Caption the pic of Bush and Rumsfeld walking by the Royal Guard. Rummie is looking at their hats thinking "Whoa..Now I've seen it all"
31 posted on 11/19/2003 8:33:12 AM PST by aristotleman
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To: doug from upland
I love when he uses the word evil. He did that many times when I saw him almost two years ago at the townhall meeting in Ontario, CA.

Yes. In a recent speech (not today's) he said "We call evil by its name".

32 posted on 11/19/2003 8:34:24 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: KantianBurke
Looks like DU has (or had) some fans on FR.
33 posted on 11/19/2003 8:37:23 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
wouldn't mind a good debate if they were civil, polite and willing to listen. Speaks volumes that most are unable to even do that. There was that thread yesterday posted by a fellow from Scotland though. At least he didn't swear, post and run.
34 posted on 11/19/2003 8:41:21 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
I can see that link; maybe it's a red x for others. But here it is if anyone is curious. Ya gotta love the creativity and skill of Democrats. And who thought they could afford software to do such work? I doubt still they bathe, tho.
35 posted on 11/19/2003 8:43:56 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Guess the rats had high hopes the English visit would be a disaster for W and are now deeply saddened.
36 posted on 11/19/2003 8:52:41 AM PST by txhurl (W daschled their hopes again.)
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To: Mark Felton
Text of speech posted on the White House website:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031119-1.html

His speeches get better and better and better.
37 posted on 11/19/2003 8:53:02 AM PST by Califelephant
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To: Mark Felton
The most a German anti-American journalist could come up with was "but what about Sharon? The US must let the UN enforce resolutions against Sharon!".

The Germans have always been great friends of the Jews! He took the Germans and French to task pretty well. Loved his comparisons of The League of Nations and complete admiration of Churchill who he obviously can be compared.

Pray for W and Truth

38 posted on 11/19/2003 8:55:31 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY is dooming the Dems!)
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To: Mark Felton
I found a video link of the President's speech, should anyone be interested:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3283457.stm

Click on video link on the right hand side.
39 posted on 11/19/2003 9:47:26 AM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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40 posted on 11/19/2003 10:07:32 AM PST by GretchenEE (Liberals CANNOT be trusted with national security [excepting maybe Congr. Norm Dicks].)
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