Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination

Newsmax ^ | 11/19/2003 | Phil Brennan

[Shooter 2.5]

You must be blind. Have someone explain number 230 to you.

You're either blind, stupid or both.

[Havoc]

Is there some reason you are taking this so personally as to attack others because you decided to buy the lie and we haven't. Or are you just 8 and trying to pretend you know something? Seriously. When you get either your body or your IQ out of Geranimals, let us know.

[truth_seeker]

"Think back to what the assasination by itself did to the psyche of the country. Tying Kennedy's murder to the VP, who automatically assumed the office of President, would have been an unimaginable blow to the US, literally unthinkable."

We got through it, just like we got through Lincoln, shots at Ford and Reagan (which landed).

I suggest the decorum you imply is no longer present. Can you picture the media covering for Cheney, if he had Bush killed?

Could you picture the media covering for Gore, if he had Clinton killed?

Before Ford dies, I would like his brain thoroughly picked, for he knows a lot about a lot. Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, Nixon, etc.

[Shooter 2.5]

Can you identify Lovelady standing in the doorway based on the 230 post?

y or n.

[Darnright]

"I suggest the decorum you imply is no longer present. Can you picture the media covering for Cheney, if he had Bush killed?"

No, I can't.

"Could you picture the media covering for Gore, if he had Clinton killed?"

I could see this scenario before I could see the media protecting Cheney on anything.

[Havoc]

Can you identify him without the 230 post, y or n.

[Shooter 2.5]

y

Now answer my question.

[Havoc]

How. Without a head on photo, you tell me how you make that identification. Cause you've just identified a feat that every law enforcement agency in the US and the world would be interested in.

[Shooter 2.5]

Did it ever occur to you that half the Dallas Police Department walked right past Billy as he ate his lunch on the stairs like he and his two friends said he did?

[FreedomCalls]

And I'll repeat: anyone who has seen the Zapruder film in slow motion and still claims the fatal shot came from the front is a charlatan.

Here is an animated gif that show the moment of impact. Kennedy moves to the front after the round impacts his skull -- not "back and to the left" like Oliver Stone convinced so many people. It's is crystal clear that the bullet came from the rear.

Put your cursor on the door handle highlight, on Jackie's hat, or on the back of the seat. They are all still. Now put it on Kennedy's head. It is thrown forwards when the bullet hits.

[Havoc]

Well, let's see. I think this is territory we've been over before. The Feds falsified interview testimony from Most of the witnesses on the ground. They confiscated at least one person's film of the incident who filmed the view looking across at the grassy Nole and that footage never again resurfaced.

The recently released initial crime scene report from the book depository states that only TWO shell casings were found in the staged shooter's nest there. The cartridges taken from the J.D.T.'s execution scene were marked by one of the officers on scene (with his initials) which later disappeared. The entire investigation is like this. Fingerprint experts could find no prints anywhere on the rifle initially - none. It was completely clean. Then a well defined palm print - (something that can't be missed for it's size) magically shows up on the Carcano after Oswald dies..

Now, again, with recently declassified documents, we know the big three networks were complicit in covering up and were even reporting against Jim Garrison's investigation to the CIA and FBI. To the extent of doing Journalistic hitpieces against Garrison for the CIA & FBI.

But, oh, we should all just believe the document presented as though it were true just because it came from a group of people doing all these fraudulent things connected to the same charade. To call it an investigation at this point is dishonest at best. It occurs to me that the Dallas police could say any thing under the sun and that will not necessarily be what shows up in the documents produced. Thus, one has to go back and review what is known and proveable. Did his friends say "x" or is that the version the FBI presented. They are at this point quite different stories. If his friends did say it, were they coerced like so many others?

[Tares]

The Feds falsified interview testimony from Most of the witnesses on the ground.

...we know the big three networks were complicit in covering up...

...the Dallas police could say any thing under the sun...

Did his friends say "x" or is that the version the FBI presented. They are at this point quite different stories. If his friends did say it, were they coerced like so many others?

So, the FBI, the TV networks, and the Dallas Police at a minimum are all in on the conspiracy. How many people, roughly, do you think were in on it, and who was directing the show?

[Shooter 2.5]

.

[Havoc]

So, the FBI, the TV networks,...

Hey, the documents proving it have been released in unredacted form. If you want to argue against it now, you're a little late to poke fun for lack of evidence. Had congress not released the unredacted documents, you might have some room to poke fun. But the absurd appearance of it is what the government counted on. Reality is screwier than fiction, friend.

Wish to change the nature of your approach to something more honest. Debate is a matter of dealing with facts. When you start trying to color your opponent, you've already lost.

[Tares]

So, the FBI, the TV networks,...

Hey, the documents proving it have been released in unredacted form.

Wish to change the nature of your approach to something more honest. Debate is a matter of dealing with facts.

Please provide a link to the documents you claim proves that the TV networks are knowingly covering up a Kennedy assassination conspiracy.

[Tares]

Kennedy assassination links for all to consider (in no particular order):

Kennedy Assassination Home Page
Lee Harvey Oswald's Paper Bag
Guinn’s neutron-activation Analysis
Warren Report: Table of Contents
One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment in Oliver Stone's JFK
The Academic JFK Assassination Web Site
HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations) Final Assassinations Report
A Critique of The Warren Report
Attempted assassination of General Walker
Oswald interviews, Acoustic studies and other information relating to the assassination of JFK
Queen of Diamonds
Zapruder 313
Head Wound
Photos and Illustrations of the JFK Assassination
Zapruder Head Shot
A Conspiracy Too Big? Intellectual Dishonesty in the JFK Assassination

[Havoc]

Ah, that's the way you do it is it? Just dump a load of stuff and let people sort it out? Ok. I can do that LOL. Here ya go!

[Tares]

Post 256 is for all to consider at their leisure. Post 255 is for you in particular. Do you have a link to the documents released by congress that proves the TV networks are part of a conspiracy to cover-up the truth about the Kennedy assassination?

[Havoc]

Post 256 is for all to consider at their leisure.

Oh, I see, so are we to presume dumping these makes you look like you have a clue? ;)

Here, you might note the tasty bit referencing a WDSU-TV reporter commenting to the new Orleans office of the FBI. The Memo discussing it is a teletype dispatch marked urgent and dated 5/18/67 to the Director [of the FBI](62-109060) and the Dallas office and From: New Orleans (89-69) Subject: "RE NEW ORLEANS TEL THIS DATE". The commentary specifically states:

"A local FBI agent reported that Richard Townley, WDSU-TV, New Orleans, remarked to a special agent of the New Orleans office last evening that he had received instructions from NBC, New York, to prepare a one hour TV special on Jim Garrison with the instruction 'shoot him down'."

An article mentioning this is here. Probe magazine, the link I provided earlier, has followed up on these documents and has published a great deal based on them since the latest round at declassifying and release of the UNredacted documents.

You might bother to read some of the evidence and while you're at it, resarch on Walter Sheridan of NBC, his intermediary, Herbert Miller, and Millers part in shuttling defense documents for Clay Shaw to the CIA. You might also check out the Phelan evidence recently released and unredacted showing that he was an informant for the FBI against Garrison. It's amazing what you can learn in 20 minutes if you open your eyes and pretend you don't know as much as you think you do.

[Havoc]

Meant to ping you on this too, Destro. ;)