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To: BJungNan
It is not my position that needs worked for accuracy. If you are calling the addition of 700 agents a serious effort given the scope of the problem and the seriousness of the threat, it is you that needs to go back to the post drafting board.

700 agents is a significant increase and I might add they came at a significant operational cost because they were all transferred off the southern border. While this article does bring needed attention to the threat we face on the northern border we are no less vulnerable on the southern border.

No less significant is the complete lack of agent support infrastructure with has existed on the northern border. You can’t just snap your fingers and re-deploy 1,000 agents and expect them to be effective. There is a host of support infrastructure from facilities, vehicles, communications and technology that needs to be included. All I am saying is that the prior administration did nothing on the northern border and our current one is making an effort. To say they are doing nothing is unmerited by the facts.

With all due respect, you sound like a politico trying to spin us.

I call it how I see it.

To put it in perspective the shortcomings of what you call progress, contrast the present "effort" to what you imagine a FReeper would set out to do if given the assignment of securing our borders. For starters, government haranging of southern border ranchers trying only to protect their property would not be on the agenda.

From what I have observed it’s not the federal government haranging them it’s the state and locals prodded on by the CBOs, the media and local opportunist politicians.

I'm sorry, but your reply is as inadequate as the present border control effort. It is so weak, in fact, I wonder if perhaps you are a Bush Administration media agent using this board to difuse this issue politically.

This issue does not need to be defused actually the more people need to become aware and involved. I will end by saying this, all the Border Patrol Agents, military on the border and even a bearded lady will not be enough to secure our borders if we don’t fix our immigration policy first.

58 posted on 11/19/2003 10:09:45 AM PST by usurper
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To: usurper
You are still skirting the issue and making excuses. Case in point: Saying that it is local and state governments that are haranging the southern ranchers.

Let's see if I have your position correct on this. 1). The federal government totally or nearly totally ignores its responsibility to protect our borders causing the problem in the first instance, 2). Then you say it is none of the federal governments business when states and local governments step in to mitigate conflicts arising with ordinary citizens stepping in to protect their property and do what the federal government should have been doing in the first place.

And please, don't bring up the 700 additional agents again. It is insulting to everyone's intellegence and, frankly, I'd think you would be embarrassed to bring it up the first time, much more so to repeat it.
60 posted on 11/19/2003 10:20:50 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: usurper
Oh, and you didn't answer my inquiry. Do you work inside the Bush Administration and/or under an agency head appointed by Bush and/or any agency or government policy forum with involvement in border control issues?
61 posted on 11/19/2003 10:24:42 AM PST by BJungNan
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