Symantec Replies RE: Pro Gun Censorship

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[Egon]

Fine, but to avoid taking a leftist political position as a result of your prudence, you should also block sites advocating gun control.

This sounds a lot like the flip side of the P.C. coin. I suppose we could grind everything to a halt trying to keep from offending everyone via this route as well, just to be fair.

[BattleFlag]

"Are you saying you think they should default by having the software ban all sites that are not pro-gun?"

No, I think they should give the user of the software the opportunity to configure it in a way that best serves their personal tastes, beliefs and objectives.

I personally do not lump self defense, pro Second Amendment and gun safety websites along with gambling, pornography and illegal drug websites do you?

You evidently have no problem with this practice which I believe is born of a mindset that guns and gun related issues are inherantly bad or evil, something children should be protected from. This way, only the prohibition side of the issue is heard and the many myths propagated by the left are accepted as the standard for information regarding this issue.

Why does Symantec believe that children need to be protected from gun safety information?

[gcruse]

You evidently have no problem with this practice which I believe is born of a mindset that guns and gun related issues are inherantly bad or evil, something children should be protected from.

I do not share your conspiratorial mindset.  And I know that in business you cannot please every guy with an agenda. You just do your best.  They responded with a reasoned reply to the query.  The response to Symantec was insulting and an embarrassment to gun owners.

[BattleFlag]

"...an embarrassment to gun owners"

You speak for gun owners?

Judging by some of the replys in this thread you are out of touch with some of those you speak for in your self appointed role as "Spokesman for Gun Owners".

Whatever you think about what I said in my reply to Symantec, you cannot say that I pretended to speak for anyone other than myself.

[BattleFlag]

And just for the record, what appears to be the last line of my reply to Symantec above was NOT part of the reply sent to Symantec.

It was added only as part of the post here.

I should made this clearer.

[LadyDoc]

the AMA has "delegates" who vote on stuff and the rest of us are too busy to pay attention to it. So no, they do not represent the average doctor...and some of their agenda is so leftists that they are losing members like mad...they now are threatening the AAFP (Family docs organization) that if more AAFP members don't join the AMA, then the AMA will cut their number of votes.

And many state Medical societies REQUIRE you to join the AMA if you want to belong to the state medical society...so many docs join and read the journal, but aren't involved politically. This allows activists-- usually non practicing docs like Howard Dean types-- to take over. You see, if you REALLY love medicine, you see a problem and fix it, and don't have time for sitting around a table for hours discussing nuances. So the few bureaucratic types and many docs who actually hate medicine end up representing us ...


I didn't realize they passed a gun control measure. The Pediatricians did, but they are leftist run. And the leftists are trying to take over the Family physicians too...

[BattleFlag]

LadyDoc,

Thanks for your reply.

"And many state Medical societies REQUIRE you to join the AMA if you want to belong to the state medical society..."

Wow, what you describe sounds almost like labor unions in that their political activism has taken them far from the beliefs of many of their members.

My workplace is unionized but I never have, nor will I ever be a member because I refuse to let a penny of my money go to support what the "parent" union supports on a national level and thankfully I live in a "Right to Work" state.

And I have co workers who feel the same way.

I think the same thing that you describe in the medical world is occuring with other organizations like the Parent Teachers Association.

Its kind of a shame really, because if these advocacy groups would leave it up to their membership to support whatever political causes they see fit, and concentrate on their core missions, their memberships would grow and they would, in the long run be healthier as organizations.

[techwench]

the worst thing about it is their AV product is excellent, but here's another thing that burns me. they charge EXTRA for the PRIVILEGE to re-download the program in the first year of purchase IF you buy the AV via download! this totally sucks! might as well go out and buy the cd, the tax (and i live in NY state) doesn't come up to the "re-download" charge. . .