Andrew Sullivan: London Calling

The Sunday Times via andrewsullivan.com ^ | 11/16/03 | Andrew Sullivan

[Pokey78]

Sullivan ping.

[Steve_Seattle]

"You cannot reason someone out of an idea he was never reasoned into."

That's a keeper - wonder if this is Sullivan's or if it's an old bromide I somehow missed?

[Steve_Seattle]

This piece pretty much says it all. It should be required reading in every school and college campus in this country.

[PogySailor]

This ones a keeper.

[Moose4]

Devastating. Absolutely, totally, scorched-earth devastating. One of the best critiques of the anti-Bush loonies I've ever read.

}:-)4

[Right_in_Virginia]

BTTT

[headsonpikes]

I believe it's from one of the Scottish philosophers.

[saquin]

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into." --- Jonathan Swift

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Jonathan_Swift

[Steve_Seattle]

Thanks to you and heads for the literary education.

[PoisedWoman]

A marvelous Sullivan piece!

[Steve_Seattle]

"But a man who, for all his faults, has actually liberated more Muslims from terror and oppression than any human rights group on earth, will be pilloried, attacked, booed and maligned."

Possibly my favorite line in this devastating piece.

[Rummyfan]

Funny how the criticism is the same whatever they do, isn't it?

Exactly!!

[McGavin999]

I love my president, he makes me so proud.

[PoisedWoman]

Ping for a very good and well-written article.

[6323cd]

bump for later reading.

[Capitalist Eric]

Sullivan is a hit-or-miss kind of guy...

This one was definitely a HIT.

[maica]

This article is a must read!

But what about Bush's violation of international norms of behavior? Didn't he invade a sovereign country without U.N. approval? Isn't that enough to foster intense loathing of this reckless president? If that is your argument, then you also have to ask yourself why president Clinton wasn't roasted at the stake as well. After all, he also launched a war without U.N. approval - in Kosovo. He did so with even less U.N. approval than George W. Bush in Iraq. Bush, after all, had the 1991 U.N. cease-fire agreement, which Saddam violated, he had umpteen violations of U.N. resolutions committed by Saddam, and he had last December's 15 - 0 Security Council resolution demanding unfettered and immediate cooperation by Saddam - or else. In Kosovo, Clinton had nothing like this international support - and had the threats of vetoes by China and Russia. But he went ahead and bombed anyway. Where were the mass demonstrations then? Where was Clinton burned in effigy? Why didn't London have to shut down because of all the protests against the lawless Americans? Hmmm.

[lainde]

bttt

[John Lenin]

The Brits should very careful how they treat a US President. It's one thing to protest your own leaders it quite anotherto protest a country who you owe your wealth to's leaders.

I guess the Brits didn't learn anything from the US boycott of all things French.

We should make them pay for this.