I understand, most people hate the word sodomite.
Not as a Christian, but as an American, I categorically reject the notion that it is good for gay marriages and gay adoptions and gay politicians and gay teachers to be openly acknowledged to children and all. I reject the notion that unions between gays are to be held up publicly as equally valuable as marriage.
I do not categorize what homosexuals do privately as sinful, nor do I recommend total abstinence on their part. Nor do I know how Christians should feel.
But if there is no sin in what they do in private, to which I don't agree, then why do you take issue with the things listed. Otherwise there must be something wrong with two men sleeping together.
What I take from your comment about the 19th amendment, is that things here were changing slowly and we became a liberal society, in a good sense. In the same sense that Afghanistan has liberalized. Women won voting privileges.
When I watch Mary Poppins and see the man of the house sitting back while his wife is out doing politics, it almost makes me cry. Biblewonks have a different perspective on male vs female roles. There was an excellent post on the FR of an article written by women who were opposed to the 19th amendment written before the 19th amendment was passed.
But now the notion of "equality" has become fetishized. In the area of race, I do believe in equality under the law. I do believe in the endeavor for public policy to become completely race-blind.
Absolutely!
But it is not so clear-cut for gender, and certainly not for sexual orientation. The liberal movement is unwilling to make distinctions proper to these areas.
But you said earlier that what homos do in private is not a sin in your eyes so why the double standard. It's either perfectly OK or a sin against God or a sin against nature.
Heh. It was also the phrase "know their place," which hit me the wrong way, but in the end, I must admit my views amount to a sense in which homosexuals should stay "in the closet."
I categorically reject the notion that it is good for gay marriages and gay adoptions and gay politicians and gay teachers to be openly acknowledged to children and all. I reject the notion that unions between gays are to be held up publicly as equally valuable as marriage. -NutCrackerBoy
But if there is no sin in what they do in private, to which I don't agree, then why do you take issue with the things listed. Otherwise there must be something wrong with two men sleeping together. -biblewonk
I believe my positions are entirely reasonable for a Burkean conservative who is essentially a skeptic with respect to God.
Tradition and religion are the very wellspring of the fiery spirit of a nation. The tradition and religion of this nation are Christian and so great deference should be paid to Christian values. Why? In order to preserve the nation's instituions, which include organized churches, marriage, Aristotelian virtue, and so on. People raising their children within their traditions are what secure our liberties beyond just one generation.
Moreover, so-called prejudices are often distinctions that help preserve a way of life. It is not possible or desirable to remove all prejudice.
With that backdrop, how did our founders go about creating a government of men? And how do we carry on to sustain our liberties? I don't believe they would think it feasible to accomplish much without the American people's good traditions. And neither should we.
The legal institution of marriage helps to preserve traditional and religiously based marriage. Not all married couples will have children. But a stable institution of marriage is invaluable to sustaining stable family structures through the generations.
The word marriage is defined to be about what I have just said. Men and women are not equal, they have different roles biologically and traditionally. Homosexual couples are not equal to married couples. Their coupling plays almost no role traditionally or biologically.
The public roles of men and women and marriage are important. The role models need to be pretty clear-cut. It is not a pretense! Little girls aspire to be like the pretty brides. Little boys aspire to be like the brave soldiers and skillful athletes.
Young adults who are different (e.g. homosexuals or brainy nerds like I was) have ample access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Legal recognition and benefits for gay unions is not needed and is not desirable.