Palestinian woman kills daughter to restore family's 'honor'

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/ ^

[stuartcr]

Yes, and different people have different basic concepts...none of which are right and none of which are wrong, it's all relative.

[MacDorcha]

"it's a stupid concept"

now who's being closed minded?

[stuartcr]

Yes, when it comes to taking a life, I tend to be close-minded.

[MacDorcha]

funny, i thought we all knew what love is... what it feel like to fall in love, even when we havent yet.... strange hows its all DIFFERENT though

[stuartcr]

It would seem otherwise.

[MEG33]

Moral relativism..That is your view?

[MacDorcha]

so it seems. ever think that you would take a life to defend your own or someone else you love? thats all this honourable suicide is, only it is yourself, not an outsider you are killing.

[Lady Heron]

Western Judeo-Christian culture is superior to Middle Eastern Islam. It just is. (And if that makes me a racist, so be it.)

No, it does not make you a racist, just one of the very few who is able to see beyond political correctness and speak the truth.

[stuartcr]

Relatively speaking, yes.

[stuartcr]

I have to go now, I'll be back tomorrow or tonite, besides...you're last is too weird.

[MEG33]

It is relatively better to kill a rape victim than to lose honor..even if the daughter was raped by the sons.It is all relative.The other children would not be shunned.Out of sight out of mind.It is their culture.Is that what you mean?

[stuartcr]

No, that is not what I mean. Apparently to some, losing face is worse than taking a life. It's all relative to what one believes.

[MacDorcha]

look, bottom line. what the woman did was not only selfish, but beyond sinful. other cercumstances (i.e., it had been herself or the boys she killed) would have made it more grey to you, more white to me.

if indeed you are pushing to make a case for "moral relativism" know this. the sociology of one community to another may change slightly or drastically, but the primal drives, the psychology is almost constant of those people in the community.

we all have a basic sense of protection of things we hold dear. we all know what love is, even if we can only define it by the word "love" to any satisfaction. we all feel that life should be sacred, and only in necessity is it to be taken. only for the good of other lives is a life to end at the hands of man.

im sure you agree with me on those points, so dont fry your brain trying to understand my life without having lived it, and i wont try to revert to how i once was to understand yours again.

[stuartcr]

I really don't care about your life, I just enjoy freerepublic, and all the wonderful things it allows us to do. By the way, the keys to the relativity stuff are usually words/phrases like...'may change'...or'almost'.

[Indie]

Freekin' sadistic satanic animals is what they are.
War on Islam. Now.
Or we will eventually be overrun and brought down
as a nation. Nukes? Green light.
Whatever it takes. Expel them all from the US.
Cancel all VISAS. Our survival is at stake.
When in heaven's name will some people ever realize that?!
There is no room for debate on what this woman did. It is not a matter of what one "believes," etc. It was sadistically evil. Contrary to popular belief, there really are some right and wrongs that are absolute.

[MacDorcha]

as for "may change" that means that something is ALLOWED TO, not whether or not something does. and "almost" refers to the fact that there are psychopaths out there.

as for your concern about my life, why did you try to make such a point to change my opinion then? my opinions form my outlook. my outlook forms my life.

[MacDorcha]

"losing face" implies one person is at stake. again, honourable suicide is usually meant to protect OTHERS, not the self. it is the ultimate in self giving. the Bible even states "blessed is the man who lays down his life for the lives of those he loves." this doesnt point at suicide, but it does point to self sacrifice, which is how many view suicide. im not talking of the ramblings of a manic depressive. that is selfish and unjust. i am talking of the motives of a man who wants what is best for his family so bad, he has no regard for his own life.

[stuartcr]

I wasn't trying to change your opinions. To me, 'may change and almost' means that these are not absolutes.

[stuartcr]

Personally, I view suicide as cowardly and selfish, but I guess there are many weak individuals that cannot handle what life gives them, including the loss of face, and they believe that to die is better, regardless of what their loved ones may think.

[MacDorcha]

"To me, 'may change and almost' means that these are not absolutes."

try taking it in context, it shold clear things right up.