To: wizardoz
Those figures leapt out at me, too. Only 19% of Germans proud to be German? And even more striking considering their snootiness: only 35% of French proud to be French? Really amazing and unexpected (at least to me).
These numbers provide a powerful insight into what's wrong with Europeans, and why they loathe us the way they do. They loath themselves, they're operating from a sense of inferiority -- and as a result they loath us. They are toxic to the core and we should expect nothing but toxic behavior from them. Seeking to please them would be folly. Naturally this is what our europhile friends, the liberals, would like to do: please them. Liberals are toxic as well, of course, so it's only natural. It's analagous to a kid engaging in some sort of self-destructive or self-effacing behavior in order to please an alcoholic parent.
To: Yardstick
Only 19% of Germans proud to be German? And even more striking considering their snootiness: only 35% of French proud to be French? Really amazing and unexpected (at least to me). The figures for Germany aren´t surprising. Due to its history, nearly all Germans have mixed feelings towards their country. They cannont be "proud" because this pride would also include their shameful history.
They don´t see that this pride would include the great shift to democracy and freedom, which last for more than 5 decades and counting.
As for the French: I also thought that more would be proud of their country.
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