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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
Religion, that claims the creator of the entire universe takes a personal interest in YOUR life, that claims the universe is structured to provide for man's eternal salvation if man so cho[o]ses it, that claims man can have a personal relationship with God?

"Religion" covers a lot of territory, Doc. Do you have a particular religion in mind? And what does the foregoing have to do with arrogance?

Or athiesm, that claims that man is a infinitely small piece of a huge uncaring universe. That man is nothing more than a temporary collection of cells with a finite existence?

Problem is that atheism has no scientific or rational basis for these claims. We live in an orderly and beautiful universe and it is not rational to claim that this "just happened".

Belief in religion requires a much larger ego and is a much greater statement of arrogance on the part of mankind.

Well, nonsense.

57 posted on 11/17/2003 11:57:16 AM PST by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
We live in an orderly and beautiful universe and it is not rational to claim that this "just happened".

So says Phaedrus. Others, however, would strongly disagree. It is also not rational to pretend you have all the answers either.
62 posted on 11/17/2003 12:34:25 PM PST by whattajoke (Neutiquam erro.)
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To: Phaedrus
"Religion" covers a lot of territory, Doc. Do you have a particular religion in mind? And what does the foregoing have to do with arrogance?

I didn't state it clearly, but Christianity is indeed the religion I had in mind with my comment about belief in a personal God.

Problem is that atheism has no scientific or rational basis for these claims. We live in an orderly and beautiful universe and it is not rational to claim that this "just happened".

I don't entirely disagree with you on this point. The existence of a higher power cannot be dismissed. There is not enough evidence to absolutely state one way or another.

However, though completely respecting the right of others to their own belief system, I personally do not think there is evidence of a personal God as represented by Christianity.

>>Belief in religion requires a much larger ego and is a much greater statement of arrogance on the part of mankind.

Well, nonsense.

Perhaps. Though it seems illogical to think that a large ego would concieve of an impersonal universe where he plays absolutely no role.

332 posted on 11/19/2003 3:48:50 PM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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