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To: Tribune7
It requires much more faith -- not reason -- to be an atheist than to believe in a creator.

Justify this statement.

Many, many people -- including me -- have felt the touch of God.

I can get similar stories from many Hindus. I don't know why I should believe you and not them.
478 posted on 11/21/2003 10:14:51 AM PST by Dimensio (The only thing you feel when you take a human life is recoil. -- Frank "Earl" Jones)
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To: Dimensio; Tribune7
Jumping in… I suspect that this "touch of God” is Tribune7's proof of God, the premise behind his claim that theism is more rational.
480 posted on 11/21/2003 10:39:39 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Dimensio
It requires much more faith -- not reason -- to be an atheist than to believe in a creator. . . .Justify this statement.

I'm defining atheist as someone who rejects the possibility of forces that can't be measured while recognizing reality. This requires the atheist to believe the world around us came about solely through radom reactions between matter and energy. The probabilities of this occuring are low. So low, in fact, you need a faith much blinder than mine to accept them.

Now, you can make an argument that there is an undiscovered (measurable) force that will make this explanation sensisble. But that's faith, and it's faith based on nothing more than a deeply held belief that God can't exist. And a deeply held belief that something is impossible without evidence of it being impossible is irrational.

And I haven't even discussed the First Law of Thermodynamics or the axiomatic impossibilitiy of the spontaneous generation of life.

486 posted on 11/21/2003 11:07:52 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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