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To: whattajoke
You all forget that Judaism existed long before Christ. Perhaps some of you believe that G-d gave Moses the Ten Commandments a week before Christ appeared on the scene.

So many of our laws and beliefs in moral right and good descend from Judeo-Christian teachings. It is the basis of our constitution. Without that moral gyroscope we would be a wretched society. Who's to say that without Judeo-Christian values that we would still be a moral and good society? I believe this because there's something in my subconscious which affirms this. That subconscious is what survives when the body dies and withers away to dust. I believe this because no atheist has been able to convince me otherwise.

And who is more right: the atheist who attempts to impose his way of life on others (ie, lawsuits filed for the alleged violations of church and state)or the Christian who at least tries to explain his beliefs without imposing them on anyone else? Last time I looked there were no Christians filing lawsuits for someone imposing their atheistic ways on them.
435 posted on 11/20/2003 7:40:54 PM PST by jaugust ("You have the mind of a four year-old boy and he's probably glad he got rid of it". ---Groucho!)
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To: jaugust
So many of our laws and beliefs in moral right and good descend from Judeo-Christian teachings.

Could you, perhaps, name some examples? Some that exist only in Judeo-Christian and no other base teachings?

I believe this because there's something in my subconscious which affirms this.

Gut-feelings. Never the best justification. That subconscious is what survives when the body dies and withers away to dust. I believe this because no atheist has been able to convince me otherwise.

Interesting. I believe that the mind -- conscious and unconscious -- cease upon death because they are simply extensions of brain activity. I believe this because all evidence indicates as such, and no one has shown me sufficient evidence to believe otherwise.

And who is more right: the atheist who attempts to impose his way of life on others (ie, lawsuits filed for the alleged violations of church and state)or the Christian who at least tries to explain his beliefs without imposing them on anyone else?

In your scenario, the Christian. Could you name a few atheists who want to impose their way of life on others? Be specific as to what exactly they're trying to do.

I looked there were no Christians filing lawsuits for someone imposing their atheistic ways on them.

No, but a Catholic family and a Mormon family did sue to stop school-sponsored religious ceremonies during a Santa Fe high school's football games. Also, a Lutherian father sued to have state-sponsored public school prayer removed. Christians haven't sued to remove enforced atheism because, well, no one is really trying to force atheism on anyone, but they have sued to remove state-sponsored religious rituals.
442 posted on 11/20/2003 8:20:48 PM PST by Dimensio (The only thing you feel when you take a human life is recoil. -- Frank "Earl" Jones)
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