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Arabs and the History of Defeat
NOV/16/03
| JVERITAS
Posted on 11/16/2003 10:24:45 AM PST by jveritas
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To: donmeaker
In World War I, Great Britain is the one who defeated Turkey in the Arab region and the Arabs lead by Sheriff Mecca (grand, grand father of Abdullah king of Jordan) were just a little help, nothing more than that. Thus you cannot attribute this as an Arab victory in WW I.
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:51:07 AM PST
by
jveritas
To: marktwain
I totally agree with you. Please read the article I wrote few days ago titled "The Enemy Within".
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:53:23 AM PST
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jveritas
To: jveritas
They think if they kill few hundred of our troops we will leave running like what we did in 1983 in Beirut. All we need is a Democrat victory for this to go from delusion to reality.
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:55:04 AM PST
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Plutarch
To: jveritas
Nah, he's just a kid. Adults care more about substance than grammer.
To: ConservativeMan55
No, that's MOOSE. =)
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:56:52 AM PST
by
PokeyJoe
To: per loin
Thank you and you are absolutely correct. The Arab must separate Islam from the State in order to change. it is a very hard task but the Turks were able to do something like that after WW I lead by a secularist called Mustafa Kamel (AttaTurk).
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:56:53 AM PST
by
jveritas
To: jveritas
The Arabs haven't won a war against an outside invader since the Mongols.
Islam also isn't a religion that allows much for individuality or free-thought, two elements to build the kind of self-esteem for real leadership or a willingness to fight for oneself.
Also, their unrealistic, self-centered vision of "Paradise" the extreme cults within Islam obsess on don't lend themselves for an ability to really fight for survivial.
There's more, but whatever, these guys are losers until they wise up that what they believe kinda holds 'em back.
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:57:43 AM PST
by
lavrenti
("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
To: LittleJoe
grammerActually, it is 'grammar'. Back to 3rd grade with thee! Government schools are ready when you are.
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:58:35 AM PST
by
xrp
To: xrp
The spelling and grammar errors are evidence of a non-native English speaker. If his writing was error free we his story of having lived in Lebanon would appear less authentic.
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posted on
11/16/2003 10:59:50 AM PST
by
Plutarch
To: jveritas
Excellent review and analysis.
To: Plutarch
Do not worry, this will not happen.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:00:53 AM PST
by
jveritas
To: xrp
LOL!!!
To: jveritas
Your post was very good, and enlightening. Thank you for sharing it with us. I don't care about the occasional spelling error or grammatical mistake - nobody is perfect.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:14:21 AM PST
by
Rollee
To: LittleJoe
np ;-)
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:15:58 AM PST
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xrp
To: jveritas
I won't worry about it. It is a well thought out piece and I appreciate your posting it. Don't YOU worry about spelling gnats, and keep writing.
FMCDH
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:16:25 AM PST
by
nothingnew
(The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
To: Plutarch
Exactly.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:20:40 AM PST
by
Bogey78O
(No! Don't throw me in the briar patch!!!!!)
To: jveritas
The Muslim Turks were able to do this only after they had killed millions of non Muslims aka Christians.
Don't get you hopes up too high on secularization of Muslim states being accomplished---it is in fact a contradiction in terms.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:39:18 AM PST
by
eleni121
To: jveritas
Araby is locked in a self-perpetuating Dark-Ages mindset which will forever keep Arabs benighted unless there is a radical change.
Islam on one hand teaches that it offers a perfect way of life and on the other that apostasy and blasphemy must be punished by death.
But strict adherence to Islam precludes the sort of individualism and free-thinking which makes modernity possible.
Consequently Muslims find themselves locked in a medieval shame/honor culture of paternal tribalism.
And they are regressing.
As a culture, Muslims have journied through history wearing a "Born to lose" tatoo.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:39:19 AM PST
by
quidnunc
(Omnis Gaul delenda est)
To: jveritas
You will have to rethink this essay and separate the terms "Arab" and "Muslim".
Your essay does not make much sense the way it is written if you don't.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:40:36 AM PST
by
eleni121
To: eleni121
Over 90% of Arabs are Muslims and to the vast majority of those Arab Muslims that my article applies.
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posted on
11/16/2003 11:45:28 AM PST
by
jveritas
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