Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust

Toronto Sun ^ | 11/16/03 | ERIC MARGOLIS

[MEG33]

I mean ,how do they justify it?I realize facts don't matter to a leftist.

[lavrenti]

No, just a Texas boy from a poor family who was rather resentful of my poverty. Blamed just about everyone but my mother, who couldn't hold a job or raise a child.

Got wise, eventually.

[lavrenti]

What most people don't realize about Churchill was that he led an "all-party" government. He had to deal with Labour.

Roosevelt has no excuse. His closest advisors, in the main, would have sold their mothers to Stalin.

[Yardstick]

I found this in the review you linked to:

In addition, the book is fascinating for its many insights into Communism's roots. You might be surprised to learn who these French authors consider to be the real father of Communism (hint: not Marx). And most readers would certainly be surprised to learn that Soviet leaders so greatly respected one Western saint that they erected a monument to him at the Kremlin.

I'm curious, who is this "real father of communism" that's mentioned here?

[MEG33]

Roosevelt had Eleanor.

[MEG33]

I don't know, but Rousseau seems likely.

[Yardstick]

Yep, Rousseau would be my first guess.

[lavrenti]

Harry Hopkins, too. I think he did the most mischief.

[MEG33]

He had a big influence on Roosevelt and is thought to be a spy by some,an unwitting tool by others of the Soviets..I also have wondered how on earth we could have survived a Henry Wallace presidency had Roosevelt died before the last election.Shudder!

[lavrenti]

God looks after children, drunks and The United States of America.

I've a great story about Earl Browder few outside the old radical left know. It was told to me by an old Trotskyist at the event.

Max Schactman was a Trotskyist who later became sort of a muddled neo-liberal AFL-CIO guy (influenced some neo-cons, long story). When he was still a hard Marxist-Leninist Trotskyist he engaged in a public debate with Earl Browder, recently sacked by Stalin as leader of the CPUSA. Browder did his presentation.

Then it was Max's turn. Out came a teletype roll, which unrolled onto the floor at his feet. Behind the podium, Max began reading off the names of the "old Bolsheviks" and supporters of Trotsky murdered by the Soviets during the Purges.

At the end of his recitation, he turned his right hand and pointed at Browder.

Then spoke, "There for the luck of geography stands a dead man."

Enough said.

[Allan]

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[Fzob]

For any Freeper that doesn't own a copy

Buy it. Worth every penny

The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression

[MEG33]

I am reading the reviews of the Black Book..interesting.

[Jack00]

You wrote:
"As a former communist I can say that it is an ideology predicated on murder.

It is based on class anger, avarice and jealousy. Combine the three emotions, give it philosophical basis and a gun and you get events such as the Ukranian slaughter.

I could go on, but this is at the core of this ideology."

What you say here is an affirmation of what Aleksander Solzhenitsin says every chance he gets, and he should know, having spent years in a gulag. I am now reading a book of his essays. He is dismayed that the West has it all wrong on communism. He cites the movie Reds as an example of how western cinema grossly misrepresents and glorifies these murderers. He points out that, at variance with received wisdom, there is no such thing as "good communism." He says western intellectuals who put their hopes in negotiations with communists are expecting a miracle. But that miracles never happen to people who are spiritually lost! I love that guy!
I've lived in the USSR, Poland and Red China and agree 100%.
Americans who know the truth really need to keep up the drumbeat. The mainstream press is trying to drown us out. We can't let that happen.

[VOA]

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[MEG33]

I just said on another thread about the left getting a pass."When did a movie expose the the murder,starvation,and concentration camps of communism?"

[gitmo]

Don't forget the Khmer Roughe killing fields in Cambodia.

[MEG33]

We didn't.I named Pol Pot,the leader of Khmer Roughe.Statistically as a percentage of population,Pol Pot wins the worst murderer award.I left Ho Chi Minh out but someone else named him.

[christie]

ping